Is King Charles the Antichrist ?

[tailgator]

Probably the 666th one.

The false king of Israel said he will.
Benjamin netanyahu will most likely have his people marked this year or next .He said he wanted everyone in Israel to e microchipped in 2020 and said he would pass legislation for that cause
His new government has been working hard to to take control of the supreme Court with his judicial reform.Once he has total control ,then I expect he will do what he said.

It will take place after Trump gives netanyahu a host of armed forces to protect Israel..

 

[tailgator]

Probably the 666th one.

PS
I believe the 666 was a reference to Solomon ,king of Israel.During his reign ,the people of Israel were heavily taxed and Solomon received 666 talents of Gold per year .
Netanyahu has stated he wants Israel to be a cashless society because of the black market in which people are not paying their taxes.He wants to make sure everyone pays their taxes.


1 kings 10:14
The weight of the gold that Solomon received yearly was 666 talents,

 

[David Lamb]

And don't forget his linage to King David.

What lineage to King David? What is that based on?

 

[Douggg]

The beast in revelation 13 which received a deadly wound and was healed is the Israeli government.

The beast in Revelation 13 which one of the heads received the deadly wound that was healed, i.e. that specific head is the beast-king - who will be worshiped and an image made of him.

It is not the Israel government.

The beast kingdom comes out of the sea - out of the nations, not Israel. The beast kingdom will be the EU in it's final form, having its ten horns, kings, who will rule with the beast king for one hour - which is figurative for the 42 months of Revelation 13:5.

The ten EU leaders will hand their kingdom over to the beast-king to be dictator of the EU.

Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

 

[David Lamb]

The beast in Revelation 13 which one of the heads received the deadly wound that was healed, i.e. that specific head the beast-king - will be worshiped and an image made of him.

It is not the Israel government.

The beast kingdom comes out of the sea - out of the nations, not Israel. The beast kingdom will be the EU in it's final form, having its ten horns, kings, who will rule with the beast king for one hour - which is figurative for the 42 months of Revelation 13:5.

The ten EU leaders will hand their kingdom over to the beast-king to be dictator of the EU.

Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

How can you be so certain in your statement, "The beast kingdom will be the EU in it's final form, having its ten horns, kings"? The European Union is not mentioned in the bible.

 

[Apple Sky]

How can you be so certain in your statement, "The beast kingdom will be the EU in it's final form, having its ten horns, kings"? The European Union is not mentioned in the bible.

Neither is the UN but this is where he will rise from.

 

[David Lamb]

Neither is the UN but this is where he will rise from.

How do you know, if it is not in the bible? What other sources speaks authoritatively on the beast in Revelation? Douggg says with certainty that it (or its kingdom) will be the EU in it's final form. You say it will arise from the UN. The bible doesn't mention either, so it is speculation.

 

[Douggg]

How can you be so certain in your statement, "The beast kingdom will be the EU in it's final form, having its ten horns, kings"? The European Union is not mentioned in the bible.

The EU is not mentioned in the bible, by that name. Neither is the United States, Canada, Japan, China, Australia, India, South America, etc.

Why the EU is because in Daniel 7:23-27, the little horn person and the ten kings will come out of the fourth kingdom - that of iron teeth- the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire in the end times has manifested itself as the EU developed from the European Economic Community EEC established by the treaty of Rome in 1957.

In Daniel 8:9 the time of the end little horn person will head south and west to the middle east and Israel, with a strong army.

That little horn person will go through 5 stages, developing into the beast-king of Revelation 13.

My chart shows that development. Becoming the Antichrist is Stage 3 of that development. The biblical term for each stage is in blue.

The prince that shall come from Daniel 9:26, Stage 2, in Daniel 9:26 comes from the people who destroyed the city and sanctuary - the Romans.

So putting everything together, as well as the kingdom of the 7 kings of Revelation 17, is how to know that the little horn person, eventually beast-king, comes from the EU, which will ultimately be the kingdom of the beast and the ten horn kings.

 

[David Lamb]

The EU is not mentioned in the bible, by that name. Neither is the United States, Canada, Japan, China, Australia, India, South America, etc.

Why the EU is because in Daniel 7:23-27, the little horn person and the ten kings will come out of the fourth kingdom - that of iron teeth- the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire in the end times has manifested itself as the EU developed from the European Economic Community EEC established by the treaty of Rome in 1957.

In Daniel 8:9 the time of the end little horn person will head south and west to the middle east and Israel, with a strong army.

That little horn person will go through 5 stages, developing into the beast-king of Revelation 13.

My chart shows that development. Becoming the Antichrist is Stage 3 of that development. The biblical term for each stage is in blue.

The prince that shall come from Daniel 9:26, Stage 2, in Daniel 9:26 comes from the people who destroyed the city and sanctuary - the Romans.


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I remember there was a lot of talk about the EU and the ten-horned beast back at the time when there were 10 countries in the EU. Then more countries joined, and things seemed to go quiet on the matter of the EU and the n beast. I understand that there are now 27 countries in the EU.

 

[Douggg]

How do you know, if it is not in the bible? What other sources speaks authoritatively on the beast in Revelation? Douggg says with certainty that it (or its kingdom) will be the EU in it's final form. You say it will arise from the UN. The bible doesn't mention either, so it is speculation.

David, one of the things to look for is to see who becomes the leader over a group of ten EU leaders. As that will be one of the first confirming indicators of who the little horn person is.

 

[Douggg]

I remember there was a lot of talk about the EU and the ten-horned beast back at the time when there were 10 countries in the EU. Then more countries joined, and things seemed to go quiet on the matter of the EU and the n beast. I understand that there are now 27 countries in the EU.

I remember also. Jack Van Impe was speculating at the time Spain joined as number 11, that Juan Carlos was the little horn/Antichrist person. You and I are about the same age... you 75, me 76.

 

[tailgator]

The beast in Revelation 13 which one of the heads received the deadly wound that was healed, i.e. that specific head is the beast-king - who will be worshiped and an image made of him.

It is not the Israel government.

The beast kingdom comes out of the sea - out of the nations, not Israel. The beast kingdom will be the EU in it's final form, having its ten horns, kings, who will rule with the beast king for one hour - which is figurative for the 42 months of Revelation 13:5.

The ten EU leaders will hand their kingdom over to the beast-king to be dictator of the EU.

Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

No,the European Christians are not the ten leaders.
The ten leaders are the Muslim leaders of nations which share the promised land with the little horn which is Israel..

Jesus was prophecying of the beast which kills his followers all along throughout the gospel.Jesus is correct,Jerusalem is responsible for all righteous blood shed upon earth .Not Europe,as you claim.


Mathew 23

34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.






The christians in Israel will be imprisoned and killed after Netanyahu's government decides to give everyone in Israel his mark.
Of course,the false prophets who come in Jesus name support the beast and will continue giving the beast their support to the very end.

 

[tailgator]

Mathew 10
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.




Jesus is correct.
His followers are persecuted throughout all the cities of Israel till he comes
Not Europe
Not America
Not Russia.


All the cities of Israel where the beast reigns

 

[kinshasa19]

Are the 2 Witnesses here yet?

 

[tailgator]

Are the 2 Witnesses here yet?

They have not arrived in Israel yet.

 

[Douggg]

Mathew 10
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

Jesus is correct.
His followers are persecuted throughout all the cities of Israel till he comes
Not Europe
Not America
Not Russia.


All the cities of Israel where the beast reigns

Matthew 10:23 is not speaking about Jesus's return. In Matthew 10:5-7, Jesus instructed his disciples to go throughout Israel and preach that the kingdom of heaven was at hand.

In Matthew 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

Jesus was saying that before the disciples had preached about the kingdom of heaven being at hand to all the cites, Jesus would come and enter Jerusalem and be hailed as the king of Israel, messiah - which is in John 12:13.

When the Jews, lead by the religious leaders of the Pharisess and Sadducees, rejected Jesus as their king of Israel, messiah - the kingdom of God was taken from that generation of Jews - to be given to another generation of Jews.

 

[Douggg]

Are the 2 Witnesses here yet?

We don't know. It is not for certain who the two witnesses are. Whether they are Moses and Elijah, or some end times persons who act in the spirit of Moses and Elijah (Elias).

One of the reasons to think it will be actually Moses and Elijah (Elias) is because both appeared to Peter, James, and John his brother, in Jesus's glorified transfiguration on the Mt. of Transfiguration in Matthew 17:1- 9. So for Moses and Elijah (Elias) to appear again in Jerusalem once the 7 years begins by the Antichrist, and the two begin preaching witnessing about Jesus, certainly has merit.

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btw, @kinshasa19 , welcome to the forum.

 

[tailgator]

Matthew 10:23 is not speaking about Jesus's return. In Matthew 10:5-7, Jesus instructed his disciples to go throughout Israel and preach that the kingdom of heaven was at hand.

In Matthew 10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

Jesus was saying that before the disciples had preached about the kingdom of heaven being at hand to all the cites, Jesus would come and enter Jerusalem and be hailed as the king of Israel, messiah - which is in John 12:13.

When the Jews, lead by the religious leaders of the Pharisess and Sadducees, rejected Jesus as their king of Israel, messiah - the kingdom of God was taken from that generation of Jews - to be given to another generation of Jews.

Jesus tells his followers in Israel how they will be persecuted and killed during the tribulation.How their own relatives will betray them to death.He tells them that them who endure till the end ,which is when he says he comes in Mathew 10:23,that they will be saved.

Jesus is speaking of his coming in Mathew 10:23
In his words"the son of man be come".


Mathew 10
17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.

19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.




There is also a reason why he tells his followers in Israel that they will not buy anything during this time before the kingdom of heaven is come.
Any Christian outside of Israel will be able to buy and sell.But according to Jesus,not his followers in Israel.

 

[Douggg]

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

Jesus did not return in the days of the disciples. The verse is not referring to Jesus's Second Coming.

Jesus did say that eventually the disciples would be hated by all men for their testimony about Jesus. But that was back in the disciples day. Verse 23 is not referring to Jesus's Second Coming.

 

[tailgator]

Jesus did not return in the days of the disciples. The verse is not referring to Jesus's Second Coming.

Jesus did say that eventually the disciples would be hated by all men for their testimony about Jesus. But that was back in the disciples day. Verse 23 is not referring to Jesus's Second Coming.

obviously you are not a disciple(student of Jesus) and you believe no one follows him including 144000 of the tribes of Israel.

You go through Israel today preaching Jesus and you will get spit on just like they spit on Jesus.Its a tradition for some to spit on christians in Israel.

During the tribulation in Israel,the christians will be imprisoned and killed just as Jesus was imprisoned and killed.

Mathew 24
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.



Of course you preach the end was 2000 years ago,don't you

Mathew 10

22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.