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Is Joyce Meyer considered Word of Faith?

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Scripturally speaking as a male you certainly should NOT be sitting under the teaching of a woman.

That being said she is word of faith but somewhat covertly.

Her biggest heresy is the lil gods theology she teaches.

Two theological lies passed on in one post. And a "covertly" stated misdirect.

I'd take the theological lies to another post, but you can't teach or debate here -- and you know it. This is a congregational forum for Word/Faith believers and people who can fellowship within that circle.
 
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Um...God has used her to bring millions to Christi. It's not my fault you take something Paul said out of context.

Also about the little gods theology I never hear her mention it...

Calvinism always has to turn the context into something not there. It's the only way to protect their tulips.

Joyce has taught that we are little gods before, but her manner of teaching isn't to prove theological treaties. She is a people helper. She takes God's Word and applies it to issues people have on a day to day basis to help them make solid, biblical decisions.

When she doe touch on the little gods topic she does so correctly. We are in the image of God, but we are not Divine.

We are called gods by God Himself in Psalm 82:6.

We are called gods by Jesus in John 10:34-35.

Blatantly. By title. No interpretation necessary.

The Jewish people listening to Jesus didn't question His statement (His question). They knew that elohim in Hebrew and theos in Greek can be applied to men in the position of judges and rulers (and not divine beings).

But the critic must always turn this to mean divine. It simply does not. We are part of the elohim, the council of God. Our domain is this earth. We are to tend it, take care of it and have dominion over it. We answer only to God.

Satan was an archangel. He too was one of the elohim. This is why, not some bending of Adam's knee, this is why he is called the prince of the power of the air (Eph 2:2) and the god of this world (2 Cor 4:4). It is a title of rulership and judgeship.

(And in case simonthezealot sees this post before the other, please go back, Simon, and read my reply to you -- you can't debate here, not being Word/Faith.)
 
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Calvinism always has to turn the context into something not there. It's the only way to protect their tulips.

Joyce has taught that we are little gods before, but her manner of teaching isn't to prove theological treaties. She is a people helper. She takes God's Word and applies it to issues people have on a day to day basis to help them make solid, biblical decisions.

When she doe touch on the little gods topic she does so correctly. We are in the image of God, but we are not Divine.

We are called gods by God Himself in Psalm 82:6.

We are called gods by Jesus in John 10:34-35.

Blatantly. By title. No interpretation necessary.

The Jewish people listening to Jesus didn't question His statement (His question). They knew that elohim in Hebrew and theos in Greek can be applied to men in the position of judges and rulers (and not divine beings).

But the critic must always turn this to mean divine. It simply does not. We are part of the elohim, the council of God. Our domain is this earth. We are to tend it, take care of it and have dominion over it. We answer only to God.

Satan was an archangel. He too was one of the elohim. This is why, not some bending of Adam's knee, this is why he is called the prince of the power of the air (Eph 2:2) and the god of this world (2 Cor 4:4). It is a title of rulership and judgeship.

(And in case simonthezealot sees this post before the other, please go back, Simon, and read my reply to you -- you can't debate here, not being Word/Faith.)

We are more than figurative Christians,we are sons of God whereby we cry Abba Father.
The Gospel is the good news,being joint heirs in Christ.

Ah but there are no it's and buts in the promises of God.

There are those who subvert Grace by creating conditions that do not exist except in the clouds of their mind.

They turn the greatest gift to mankind into a heresy.

I think they should use poppy flowers instead of tulips.

Twisting something so beautiful to suggest that those in Christ would think themselves to be God.
 
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Scripturally speaking as a male you certainly should NOT be sitting under the teaching of a woman.

That being said she is word of faith but somewhat covertly.

Her biggest heresy is the lil gods theology she teaches.

How many divorced Deacons and Pastors have you sit under?

If you never have how many do you befriend and have fellowship with?
The sword cuts both ways.

But if you cannot understand faith by Grace or John 3:16 I wouldn't expect you to get Timothy as well.
 
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And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;

This should keep you occupied.

By the time Paul began his missionary movement, women were important agents within the different cities. Letters generally accepted as Paul’s are Romans, 1 and 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Philippians, 1 Thessalonians and Philemon.[5] His casual greetings to acquaintances offer solid information about many Jewish and Gentile women who were prominent in the movement. His letters provide vivid clues about the kind of activities in which women engaged more generally.[6]

In the Letter to the Romans Paul sends greetings to a number of people. and specifically mentions:

Prisca and her husband Aquila. She and her husband are mentioned six times in the Bible, as missionary partners with the Apostle Paul. They were also partners in the craft of tentmaking. The author of Acts states that they were refugees who came first to Corinth when the Emperor Claudius expelled all Jews from Rome. Paul mentions that at some point they had risked their necks for him.[5] When Paul refers to Priscilla and Aquila, Priscilla is usually listed first, suggesting to some scholars that she was the head of the family unit.[7]
Mary and "the beloved Persis" are commended for their hard work.[8]
He greets Julia, and Nereus' sister,[8] who worked and traveled as missionaries in pairs with their husbands or brothers. He also sends greetings to Tryphena, Tryphosa, who "labour for the Lord's work", and to Rufus' mother. Barbara Leonhard notes that "the fact that Paul singles them out indicates his respect for their ministry."[5]
He commends to their hospitality, Phoebe, a leader from the church at Cenchreae, a port city near Corinth. Paul attaches to her three titles: diakonos meaning a deacon (lit. "servant"), sister, and prostatis meaning "a woman in a supportive role, patron, benefactor".[9] There is no difference when the title of deacon is used for Phoebe and Timothy. Diakonos (Gk.) is grammatically a masculine word, the same word that Paul uses in regards to his own ministry. Phoebe is the only woman to be named "deacon".[10] 1 Timothy discusses the criteria for Deacons in the early Church which is explicitly directed to both male and females. Phoebe was especially influential in the early Church seen in Jerusalem from the 4th century inscription: "Here lies the slave and bride of Christ, Sophia, deacon, the second Phoebe, who fell asleep in Christ."[11] Women flourished in the deaconate between the 2nd and 6th centuries. The position required pastoral care to women, instructing female candidates and anoint them at Baptism. They were also required to be present whenever a female would address a bishop.[12] In Romans Phoebe is seen as acting as Paul's envoy. Phoebe is named as a Patron of Paul, meaning that she would have been financially contributing to Paul's mission.
Junia is also mentioned. According to Bart Ehrman, Paul praises Junia as a prominent apostle[13] who had been imprisoned for her labor. Junia is “the only female apostle named in the New Testament”.[14] Ian Elmer states that Junia and Andronicus are the only "apostles" associated with Rome that were greeted by Paul in his letter to the Romans.[15] [Rom 16:7] Steven Finlan says Paul greets this couple as "kinspersons and fellow prisoners" and says that "they are outstanding amongst the apostles."[16] According to Ian Elmer, the fact that Andronicus and Junia are named as apostles suggests a priori that they were evangelists and church-planters like Paul.[15] Some translators have rendered the name as the masculine "Junias", but Chrysostom seems clear, "Indeed, how great the wisdom of this woman must have been that she was even deemed worthy of the title apostle.” [5]
Chloe, was a prominent woman of Corinth. It was from "Chloe's people" that Paul, then at Ephesus learned of the divisions in the congregation of Corinth.
In Philippians he expresses appreciation for Euodia and Syntyche his fellow-workers in the gospel.[8]
According to Karen King, these biblical reports seem to provide credible evidence of women apostles active in the earliest work of spreading the Christian gospel.[17]

In Galatians 3:28 Paul wrote that there is "neither male nor female" for all are one in Christ.

Wikipedia.

Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

King James Version.
 
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Then we may ask who Debra was?

In Timothy Paul was addressing multicultural issues from women who were uneducated in the Gospel.
This was at Ephesus that Timothy was Pastor at that time.

The statement was proprietary to that time,and Church.

Systematic study will cause stupid arguments like this one.

Calvinist are uneducated in Hermuntics and nuances in literature, thus reading God's word with blinders on.

Commonsense should reconcile how Paul thought of women in his ministry.
Commonsense should reveal how God placed women in authority,do you think Debra was a accident?

Even systematic review would reveal that women held teaching positions and were rulers as well.

I do not understand why overly legal Calvinist try to prosthelytize nonsense to well versed Bible believing people.

So if it's discord your spreading leave.
 
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I might add but by far no Greek scholar to a Blessed Mans post the Word authority is ambiguous in this passage.

Thank you for teaching me a deeper understanding of the passage A Blessed Man

This is true. This is also the only place in scripture this Greek word appears.
 
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