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No, John 1:1-4
I would add to that that the translation "only begotten" should probably have been "unique".
Was Jesus Gods first creation?
Jesus is God the Son - the second person of the Godhead - One God in Three Persons. He is from eternity past.
In him is "Life - unborrowed - underived"
Where does the bible say that (one God in three persons)?
I recall Jesus saying 'I and my Father are one', not 'I and my Father and the holy spirit are one'.
Paul wrote, 1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Trinitarians invent things which are not in the bible while ignoring what the bible plainly teaches.
John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Begotten, not created. The Father begat the Son. God gave life to His Son.
“All things Christ received from God, but He took to give. So in the heavenly courts, in His ministry for all created beings: through the beloved Son, the Father's life flows out to all; through the Son it returns, in praise and joyous service, a tide of love, to the great Source of all.” {The Desire of Ages, p. 21}
I think the OP refers to revelation 3:14
Trinitarians???--so what are you????--Bitarian??---The Holy Spirit was there from the beginning--
Yes, well, the thing about pioneers, is that they grow in knowledge and understanding. EGW was not a Sabbath keeper at first.
Why would she say we should baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit? are you saying that is not biblical?
Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
It's true the pioneers had to 'grow' in truth. However Ellen White never once in her writings used the word 'trinity' and she never corrected the pioneers of their position on the trinity. She instead in 1891 told brother Chapman to harmonize with the church body on the belief of holy spirit (the pioneers believed the holy spirit is the spirit of Christ, not the 3rd person of the trinity). The mystery of trinity didn't enter into the Adventist church until after Ellen White's death.
Ellen White called 'receiving the seal of the living God' as 'settling into the truth'. She wrote about sis Hastings who passed away had received the seal. How could this be the case if the pioneers had major errors in regarding to which God they worship?
About Matt 28:19, the bible tells us 'precepts upon precepts, lines upon lines...'. Not taking one verse to support a pre-conceived idea.
When you look at the actual baptismal accounts, all 6 of them in the book of Acts, every one of them invoked the name of Lord Jesus (not the trinity). To receive the spirit of Jesus, you should invoke Jesus' name.
Where does the bible say that (one God in three persons)?
I recall Jesus saying 'I and my Father are one', not 'I and my Father and the holy spirit are one'.
4 “Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God, the Lord is one! 5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.
One God -- Matt 22 - "Hear O Israel - the Lord your God is ONE" - Deut 6:4
Matt 28 - "baptizing them in the NAME of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit".
Especially when weighed against the number that do not support the trinity but the instead, the Father/Son relationship.... it's very important we understand this truth as it relates directly to us in our relationships here on earth.... man/woman, Christ/church. Trinity would allow for Christ/church/tradition.Only someone with trinitarian glasses on will say these verses support the trinity.
Remember - in the OT when it says that God is One - the word for one used is echad. (as opposed to yachad) Echad is also used to describe the unity of husband and wife "...they shall become one [echad] flesh..." So it is not descriptive of an absolute singularity.
That is actually one of the proof texts of Modalists - that The Father is in reality Jesus. An absolute singularity.Yeah, just like when Jesus said "I and my Father are one".
That is actually one of the proof texts of Modalists - that The Father is in reality Jesus. An absolute singularity.
Another way of saying "I am the Father."
It's amazing how people can look at a pretzel and call it a ruler....So when the Father talks to the Son, that's Jesus talking to Himself?
Also when the bible says Jesus is the Son of God, He really is the Son of Himself?
It's amazing how people can look at a pretzel and call it a ruler....
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