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James was a Jew.
.These very early Christians were Jews. So your point is invalid.
So, you refused to read Galatians 4:21-31 to find out?I know who does...the unbelieving and unrepentant.
Available? Yes. (yet to no avail)So, is Isaiah 58:13-14 available for you?
I'll take that as a "yes".And?
Yes, he had quite a reputation. (see bold below)Obviously they did not like Paul.
I'll take that as a "yes".
More proof of the hostile environment toward believers in the synagogues. An offence worthy of arrest and imprisonment. (illegal activity)
Saul went to Damascus to...
Acts 9:1-2
Meanwhile, Saul was still breathing out murderous threats against the Lord’s disciples. He went to the high priest 2 and asked him for letters to the synagogues in Damascus, so that if he found any there who belonged to the Way, whether men or women, he might take them as prisoners to Jerusalem.
Yes, he had quite a reputation. (see bold below)
Acts 21:27-29
When the seven days were nearly over, some Jews from the province of Asia saw Paul at the temple. They stirred up the whole crowd and seized him, 28 shouting, “Fellow Israelites, help us! This is the man who teaches everyone everywhere against our people and our law and this place. And besides, he has brought Greeks into the temple and defiled this holy place.” 29 (They had previously seen Trophimus the Ephesian in the city with Paul and assumed that Paul had brought him into the temple.)
And as I understand it, there were outer and inner courts as well. So "going" to the Temple could mean outside the outer court, or inside the outer court, or inside the inner court. Which would probably be a "no gentiles allowed" area. Not sure about James going to synagogue every day. Are you sure?I will admit it is a strange dichotomy...since James as well as others went to the Temple and synagogue daily...
With preaching like this, I can see where they might get that idea.IMO the difference might be that they thought Paul as well as his followers taught AGAINST Torah (which is likely why James had Paul and his followers go to the Temple for sacrifices) while James and his followers who they knew kept Torah were allowed in the Temple and synagogues (at least for a time).
And as I understand it, there were outer and inner courts as well. So "going" to the Temple could mean outside the outer court, or inside the outer court, or inside the inner court. Which would probably be a "no gentiles allowed" area. Not sure about James going to synagogue every day. Are you sure?
With preaching like this, I can see where they might get that idea.
Galatians 5:4
You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.
Galatians 3:23-25
Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
Thanks. That's good.Acts 2:46
Also, Eusebius (from Hegesippus, a second century writer) writes:
"James alone was permitted to enter into the holy place; for he wore not woolen but linen garments. And he was in the habit of entering alone into the temple, and was frequently found upon his knees begging forgiveness for the people, so that his knees became hard like those of a camel, in consequence of his constantly bending them in his worship of God, and asking forgiveness for the people."
I'll have to disagree in reference to his motives. I think he did it to appease the Jews. (his life was in danger) It would be hypocritical otherwise, concerning his teaching on the law. And ultimately was found guilty in their courts, right? Having testified before them.Probably so. However, he DID as James requested and went to the Temple. Keeping Torah because you love the Almighty and trying to be justified by it are different. Everyone knew no one could keep it perfectly, hence sacrifices and Teshuvah. There needed to be a covering...
I'll have to disagree in reference to his motives. I think he did it to appease the Jews. .
I'll have to disagree in reference to his motives. I think he did it to appease the Jews. (his life was in danger) It would be hypocritical otherwise, concerning his teaching on the law. And ultimately was found guilty in their courts, right? Having testified before them.
Yes, that is what I was saying about the temple courts. Nothing about the synagogue in these examples. Only "their homes" and "the temple courts".
Available? Yes. (yet to no avail)
So, you refused to read Galatians 4:21-31 to find out?
Galatians 4:28-31
Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” 31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.
James is very specific about the "point" of it all. He states explicitly it is to refute false accusations made against Paul. Those here who choose to join in making those false accusations against Paul - are then confronted by Paul's response , as he joins in "proving" that the accusation against him -- is false!
And what (according to James) was the false accusation?
text please.
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