Is it time for Donald to bow out? (MOVED)

4x4toy said:

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I'm telling your alleged virgin ears to get a real issue and quit trying to be a control freak that doesn't mean crap to a tree .. Savey ?

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Amen my friend!

Major1 said:

My dear brother. I do not mean to argue or be defensive. I am agreeing with you.

My point is that if the USA had any leadership and determination no country would fire upon anything we had whether it thought a ship was from Saudi Arabia or the USA. There was a time when no one would do such a thing if there was a THOUHT it may be from the USA.

Think about this. What do you think would happen if Ethiopia fired upon an Israeli military ship in the Red Sea and killed 500 Jews????

Why has it not happened??? They know exactly what the Israeli's would do. That is respect and fear which keeps the peace.

Whether it was Yemen or Iran, they know what the USA will do in the same situation. NOTHIN WHAT SO EVER.

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Maybe. I don't know. But you know, what is purpose and what is cause and what is effect? We need not to mix those. Just USA being scared by all? Because USA will always act? Yes, it's force. It's good for USA.

But bigger question is, what countries think of USA? As they protect USA, or they want to come to your home and destroy?? Israel is tough. Because all know, Israel want to survive. In Israel. Israel not going to outer place and impose his wishes. USA does. If any country will think, Israel coming to destroy us, you think not will they try to protect? Hmm...

So, where is not scared of USA, and where's very very scared, but still doing because no choice they see? One thing, we read in news, and think, oh no, USA is weak, nobody is afraid anymore. Well, in past years, was USA so acting as today everywhere? What is level of trust to USA today and before?

So, super force isn't always guarantee of submission! Think of Vietnam, think of Northen Korea etc. I don't mean to say those are good forces. Just if you push somebody into corner and make them think, Kaput, wait for mouse to become as cat!

I think, that Trump really understands this thing. He knows USA must protect USA, period. No business to mess with all of world. It's one of many reasons for him to sure sure lose!!! I don't see any man like him win in modern USA....

And thank you brother to be talking so kind to me. Sorry if I sound angry or stubborn. Not really. I love USA and all countries, as its people. I pray for best, so that for Christ to be inside all hearts!!! And for USA election I pray all the time that the most holy will of God will be fulfilled!!!

Jason0047 said:

What? You are condoning what he said? And now you are making sex jokes about it and laughing? That is not a Christian trait or a fruit of the Spirit.


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Are you upset at Trump because of what he said? Did he not apologize to everyone. Isn't one of the things we as Christians do is to forgive those who ask?

By the way.....did you hear Bill Clinton apologize and ask for forgivenss????

I think I heard him blame all of his problems on the word .........."IS, It all depends on the definition of the word IS".

You see, we are quick to blame someone we do not like, but we look the other way when it is someone we do like.

Mr. Trump said some terrible, lewd words in a private conversation and you are condemning him. He is guiltily!!!!
Hang him!!! Do not forgive, do not pass GO and do not collect $200.

BUT, Mrs. Clinton destroys 33,000 "Confidental" emails AFTER they were subpoenaed buy congress and all is well.
No foul, no one hurt, no problems!!!!!

He SAID some bad word and he is terrible, but she BROKE THE LAW and all is well.

Am I the only one that has a problem with this kind of thinking???? THAT is what is wrong today all over this land.

4x4toy said:

I know right ? Does anyone think if we had an uncensored thread the Hillary supporters would not make up 95% of the filth that would appear ?

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Agreed!

Alas, some one wants me to post evidence of words said, places they were said just to prove to them that the words were in fact said. It is as if they will then believe what I said! NO they will not.

4x4toy said:

I'm telling your alleged virgin ears to get a real issue and quit trying to be a control freak that doesn't mean crap to a tree .. Savey ?

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When did you accept Jesus as your Savior?
Do you believe Christ has made a change in your life to be more holy?


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ChristianFromKazakhstan said:

Maybe. I don't know. But you know, what is purpose and what is cause and what is effect? We need not to mix those. Just USA being scared by all? Because USA will always act? Yes, it's force. It's good for USA.

But bigger question is, what countries think of USA? As they protect USA, or they want to come to your home and destroy?? Israel is tough. Because all know, Israel want to survive. In Israel. Israel not going to outer place and impose his wishes. USA does.

So, where is not scared of USA, and where's very very scared, but still doing because no choice they see? One thing, we read in news, and think, oh no, USA is weak, nobody is afraid anymore. Well, in past years, was USA so acting as today everywhere? What is level of trust to USA today and before?

So, super force isn't always guarantee of submission! Think of Vietnam, think of Northen Korea etc. I don't mean to say those are good forces. Just if you push somebody into corner and make them think, Kaput, wait for mouse to become as cat!

And thank you brother to be talking so kind to me. Sorry if I sound angry or stubborn. Not really. I love USA and all countries, as its people. I pray for best, so that for Christ to be inside all hearts!!! And for USA election I pray all the time that the most holy will of God will be fulfilled!!!

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You are not stubborn my friend and I do not think you are angry.
On the other hand, I am angry. I have fought in Vietnam and killed more men in combat than I can count. I did it because my country told me to.

Now we see YEMEN shooting at my brothers in the Navy. IRAN pushing at our military. Russia buzzing our ships.They do it because they do not respect us in any way whatsoever. You do not hear any stories about anyone doing those confrontations to the Israeli army. WHY???? RESPECT!!!

It is not about FEAR. It is about RESPECT and LOYALITY!

When I say LOYALITY I am talking about all the BILLION and BILLIONS of dollars the USA has given countries all over the world in aid. No.......TRILLIONS is more like it.

When an earthquake devastates a country, who is the 1st one there with help? the USA.
When a flood hits, who is the 1st one there? The USA.

When there was a famine in YEMEN, who was there to feed them. The USA.

Jason0047 said:

When did you accept Jesus as your Savior?
Do you believe Christ has made a change in your life to be more holy?


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And since you seem to be saying you have, why are you having a problem in foregiving Mr. Trump?

Jason0047 said:

No. Gaddafi is not a nice man. Here are more of his crimes.

http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.570727

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There's funny funny ha ha, and then there's funny funny... hmmmm.

Major1 said:

You are not stubborn my friend and I do not think you are angry.
On the other hand, I am angry. I have fought in Vietnam and killed more men in combat than I can count. I did it because my country told me to.

Now we see YEMEN shooting at my brothers in the Navy. IRAN pushing at our military. Russia buzzing our ships.They do it because they do not respect us in any way whatsoever. You do not hear any stories about anyone doing those confrontations to the Israeli army. WHY???? RESPECT!!!

It is not about FEAR. It is about RESPECT and LOYALITY!

When I say LOYALITY I am talking about all the BILLION and BILLIONS of dollars the USA has given countries all over the world in aid. No.......TRILLIONS is more like it.

When an earthquake devastates a country, who is the 1st one there with help? the USA.
When a flood hits, who is the 1st one there? The USA.

When there was a famine in YEMEN, who was there to feed them. The USA.

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True , and another wave of help from private citizen donations that usually accompany the US official help .. I ain't saying America hasn't stepped in before but until recent trends we're all we got .. Just like in Mexico , they have as much wealth and natural resources as America to develop and prosper , what's the hold up ?

Major1 said:

You are not stubborn my friend and I do not think you are angry.
On the other hand, I am angry. I have fought in Vietnam and killed more men in combat than I can count. I did it because my country told me to.

Now we see YEMEN shooting at my brothers in the Navy. IRAN pushing at our military. Russia buzzing our ships.They do it because they do not respect us in any way whatsoever. You do not hear any stories about anyone doing those confrontations to the Israeli army. WHY???? RESPECT!!!

It is not about FEAR. It is about RESPECT and LOYALITY!

When I say LOYALITY I am talking about all the BILLION and BILLIONS of dollars the USA has given countries all over the world in aid. No.......TRILLIONS is more like it.

When an earthquake devastates a country, who is the 1st one there with help? the USA.
When a flood hits, who is the 1st one there? The USA.

When there was a famine in YEMEN, who was there to feed them. The USA.

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OK. I understand you, brother. But I think, your mind is so filled with feelings. Nobody wants war, you must understand it as soldier. No soldier wants to come back in zink cascet home!! Not any side. USA or Iran or Yemen or Russia or Vietnam or Iraq or Afganistan or Syria or Ukraine or etc. You see, you think we USA are so good so everybody must respect us. Sorry to say, no, USA not seen as good force in most of world... Very very contrary... Sorry to say it! If you not believe me, ask! Ask people in different countries, what they think of USA. USA ships, airplanes must stay in USA. Why they come to those countries? Those countries not attacking USA in any way!!! So your logic must be, not that because you have super force, you have right to go to any home and do whatever and have zero responce to it. Those soldiers are good, and they help from very heart for people in trouble like earhtquake etc. They re good people. But if governemnt, which is under control from crazy banks, tell soldiers to go to other country??? Like you mentioned Russia. Hahaha. Sorry, American ships and spy airplanes with turned off transponder come to close to Russia's border!!! If Russia military airplane or warship will approach shores of Florida or California, you think USA will sit and watch??? I guarantee not. So, why what's logical to USA, is bad for any country??? USA military has these bad encounters near other countries, across the globe from USA? What they doing there??? Protecting USA? Can you imagine military of whole world swarming near USA? You will like it? This happening with many countries. All kinds of military near its borders. Not just moving, but also acting.

Again, action and result. You say, everybody must be afraid of strong USA. Any patriot want it for any country. Bigger question, what we want for all of world? Peace for yourself and war for rest people?

tickingclocker said:

There's funny funny ha ha, and then there's funny funny... hmmmm.

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And then there's funny and lots of blood and tears.......

SpunkyDoodle said:

If anyone is at all bothered by this banter (how is it not illegal to record someone without their consent?) they truly would be upset hearing the things that are said in DC all the time.

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Washington DC--Disney Land East. The Alternative Reality.

BTW, just love your name!

ChristianFromKazakhstan said:

And then there's funny and lots of blood and tears.......

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No. Never. Only for the twisted.

Major1 said:

Are you upset at Trump because of what he said? Did he not apologize to everyone. Isn't one of the things we as Christians do is to forgive those who ask?

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First, not sure how you could have missed it. He clearly didn't apologize and mean it. He later said his words were locker room talk (which undoes the spoken apology he said before - which was more than likely pre-written for him). When pressed about how he treats women by Cooper, he just ignored him and continued to rant on about something else (as a diversion tactic). For people who are guilty do not want to talk about their sin. In other words, he has not changed and is not sorry about what he said. What if Trump was talking about your Mom or your sister or your daughter and just said it was locker room talk? Does that really make it okay? No it doesn't. Jesus says out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. Jesus says, "... an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil." In other words, if a person speaks evil things, then they have an evil heart (Which makes them evil).

Second, Trump did not attack me personally. So there is nothing to forgive. I am merely pointing out his blatant and open sin in public showing how that makes him unfit to be a Commander in Chief (Let alone to be fit to babysit children). For if he treats woman this way, how do you think he is going to treat the rest of America?

Major1 said:

By the way.....did you hear Bill Clinton apologize and ask for forgivenss????

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Bill did apologize to the people of America for what he did with Monika. Whether he repented towards God is another matter.
As for the other women: We need proof in a court of law that their claims are true. We cannot convict a person for a crime or throw the book at them if there is no evidence. For here in America, you are innocent until you are proven guilty in a court of law.

Major1 said:

I think I heard him blame all of his problems on the word .........."IS, It all depends on the definition of the word IS".

You see, we are quick to blame someone we do not like, but we look the other way when it is someone we do like.

Mr. Trump said some terrible, lewd words in a private conversation and you are condemning him. He is guiltily!!!!
Hang him!!! Do not forgive, do not pass GO and do not collect $200.

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But Trump hasn't repented. He is still the same person. This is obvious if you were to have watched the 2nd debate. Hillary said he didn't apologize to all the people he said bad things against. He is not a nice man. He is angry, rude, disruptive, disrespectful and has an over inflated ego.

Major1 said:

BUT, Mrs. Clinton destroys 33,000 "Confidental" emails AFTER they were subpoenaed buy congress and all is well.
No foul, no one hurt, no problems!!!!!

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You sound like Trump. Where is the evidence? Did she kill someone in this process? What major moral law did she break? How does that compare to Trump's disregard of human beings, the law, and taxes.

Major1 said:

He SAID some bad word and he is terrible, but she BROKE THE LAW and all is well.

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She admitted her mistake. She is not perfect. But she didn't kill anybody; And I am sure she has no intentiion of doing it again. Oh, and Trump did not say just some bad word. He said many bad words against MANY people. Jesus says out of the abundance of the heart does the mouth speak. If someone says something wrong and is not remorseful over it, the reason is because they are not a good person on the inside. Yes, Hillary is far from being a saint, and I disagree strongly on her idea for abortion (paid by our tax dollars) and other moral issues, but that does not mean I think she is going to destroy this country over night (Like Trump would). Think angry person next to nuclear codes. Why would you want that? Unless you do not see anything wrong with being angry all the time. Then the pieces of the puzzle start to fit together.

Major1 said:

Am I the only one that has a problem with this kind of thinking???? THAT is what is wrong today all over this land.

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Look, they are both bad apples. Both Hillary and Trump. I am not voting for either one. But to say Trump is better is like saying rain is not wet.



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tickingclocker said:

No. Never. Only for the twisted.

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True. I was continuing my consideration of Hillary Clinton demonic laugh about Lybia.

We live in the digital age. Past presidents are as sinful as Trump, there were just less people and less evidence to dig up to provide the shaming.

Major1 said:

You are not stubborn my friend and I do not think you are angry.
On the other hand, I am angry. I have fought in Vietnam and killed more men in combat than I can count. I did it because my country told me to.

Now we see YEMEN shooting at my brothers in the Navy. IRAN pushing at our military. Russia buzzing our ships.They do it because they do not respect us in any way whatsoever. You do not hear any stories about anyone doing those confrontations to the Israeli army. WHY???? RESPECT!!!

It is not about FEAR. It is about RESPECT and LOYALITY!

When I say LOYALITY I am talking about all the BILLION and BILLIONS of dollars the USA has given countries all over the world in aid. No.......TRILLIONS is more like it.

When an earthquake devastates a country, who is the 1st one there with help? the USA.
When a flood hits, who is the 1st one there? The USA.

When there was a famine in YEMEN, who was there to feed them. The USA.

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One more thing, brother. You know as military - they are not stupid, and they don't play games. Anything they do is with certain purpose.

If they come very close to border of some country, real military power like warships and military airplanes, then, often it's as scouting operation. So, attacking from "enemy" is actually very expected and really wanted. It's in order to test their protective ability. So, if civillian public cries "oh, no, they shoot our military we must be very weak, nobody's scared". It's sometimes just not understanding nature of military strategy and tactics. USA is happy "enemy" shoots. They find out command chain action, reaction time, deployment method, range, radio frequency codes etc. And "enemy" wants to show their best "teeth" to USA as to say, "stay away from my home"...

Passive surveilance is good that much. But then comes time for active reconessance by small provokation. It's all games. Too bad.

But it's not like some "enemy" suddenly attacks USA military that is near USA border, for example. No. Never. Nobody that brave or suicaidic, believe me!!!

ChristianFromKazakhstan said:

True. I was continuing my consideration of Hillary Clinton demonic laugh about Lybia.

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When you demonize fellow human beings, can you still see them as those "love thy neighbors as yourself" Jesus mentioned? Neither Trump nor Clinton are "demons". They are fallible human beings with faults and failings, just like you and me. Attack the position, not the person. God loves Donald and Hillary the exact same as He loves you and I.

She wasn't laughing about Lybia being bombed. She was laughing triumphantly that the mission that Congress authorized was successful beyond what they had hoped for. So was everyone else who was involved in it. You know this. Did you smile when you heard Osama Bin Laden had been caught and was now dead? I admit I did. One of my best friends was on a plane on 9/11 that flew out of the same airport as the hijackers at the very same time. We didn't know if she was dead or alive. I was the one who had to comfort her mentally challenged daughter when she got home that day from daycare, out of her mind with fright for her mom. Why? Her dad had literally gone catatonic. Why is it beneficial to believe we are above the same in others? It just looks worse on them than on us, huh? Think of those who will profit off such a false belief.

I am now earnestly praying for the genuine salvation of Trump and Clinton as being more critical to the eternal than whoever gets to be president for the next 4 years of a human-based system that will someday fade to what it is. Nothing. Care to join me?

momto3girls said:

When did Trump "come to Christ?" When he decided to run on the GOP ticket? I must've missed that one.

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Yeah, somehow he came to Christ without ever being willing to repent.