Is it still stealing?

[Helo]

Ok, picture this. You own a store, say a resturant and you order a new appliance. A new fridge. The company delivers one to you, then the next day delivers annother by mistake and doesnt realize it. Do you think its wrong keep that second fridge and not point out the problem?

 

[Yusuf Evans]

Yes. You didn't pay for it, and the delivery guy could lose his job because of that mistake. Integrity checks are a major factor in life. Honesty is always the best policy in the end.

 

[Helo]

HAH! Honesty is NOT always the best policy, your parents flat out lied to you when they told you that.

 

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Ok, picture this. You own a store, say a resturant and you order a new appliance. A new fridge. The company delivers one to you, then the next day delivers annother by mistake and doesnt realize it. Do you think its wrong keep that second fridge and not point out the problem?

Do you?

 

[bumblebee62331]

I'd point out the mistake and get them to take the second fridge back. I don't want anything that I didn't pay for. Keeping the fridge means that when the company inevitably realises their mistake, whether it be that day, in a week's time, or three months time, they will most probably call the police and report you for stealing or posessing property that doesn't belong to you.

 

[Helo]

Do you?

Nope, I didnt do anything proactive to get the fridge. Who am I to tell them how to do thier job?

 

[bumblebee62331]

Nope, I didnt do anything proactive to get the fridge. Who am I to tell them how to do thier job?

Ok here's a thought. What if the roles were reversed? What if you owned that company that delivered fridges and for some reason, one of your customers got two.

Would you want him to fess up and let you know that he got a second fridge? Or would you be willing to give him a free thousand-dollar fridge? Would your opinion of him change at all if you knew he kept the fridge that didn't belong to him?

Oh and you're not allowed to say that if you were in charge, you wouldn't have let this mix-up happen

 

[Helo]

Id shrug it off and take steps to prevent it happening again.

Id contact the person and say "Hey, we accidentally delivered an extra fridge to your place, do you still have it, if you do could you please return it."

If they said yes and forked it over, I'd thank them and give them a discount on thier next purchase for thier honesty. If they said no, Id stop selling to them and contact other suppliers, let them know what happened. Im not going to get all fired up and get in a legal battle over a stupid fridge.

As for the employee that made the mistake, Id check out thier work and see if this was a common mistake or if this was a one time thing. If its happened repeatedly, Id probably fire them. If it was a one or two time thing, Id probably pull them aside and say "Hey, keep your eyes open next time."

In my opinion its the same as dropping a dollar on the ground. My company screwed up and someone benefitted from the screw up, that should teach me to be more careful next time

And like I said, if they dont want to give it back or they "lost" it. Then I blacklist them and dont do business with them ever again

 

[Beastt]

It would be property belonging to another, knowingly being in your control against the wishes of the owner. It cost them money, they had no intention of giving it away, and you did nothing to cause them intent to transfer possession to you. Yes, it's still wrong. Whether or not it can be technically defined as "stealing" or "theft" is a matter of jurisdictional statute. But it would be wrong regardless.

 

[Peppermint Patty]

Ok, picture this. You own a store, say a resturant and you order a new appliance. A new fridge. The company delivers one to you, then the next day delivers annother by mistake and doesnt realize it. Do you think its wrong keep that second fridge and not point out the problem?

I just saw this on an episode of Roseanne...only it was a stove.
Yes, of course it's stealing, even if the delivery was their mistake.

 

[h2whoa]

I would consider it wrong to fail to inform the company either post or at-the-time-of delivery.

 

[peepnklown]

Hey, the refrigerator you received ‘gratis’ might have been going to the starving children in Africa.

 

[Harlan Norris]

Ok, picture this. You own a store, say a resturant and you order a new appliance. A new fridge. The company delivers one to you, then the next day delivers annother by mistake and doesnt realize it. Do you think its wrong keep that second fridge and not point out the problem?

If I was a store owner,and you bought an item in my store for 10.00,but 100.00,went on your card.Would I owe you 90.00,or should I just keep it?

 

[Moros]

I'd send it back, only because of the legal ramifications of keeping it. I'd have no moral quandary otherwise.

 

[MethodMan]

Did You sign for it?

 

[Kroger99]

Ok, picture this. You own a store, say a resturant and you order a new appliance. A new fridge. The company delivers one to you, then the next day delivers annother by mistake and doesnt realize it. Do you think its wrong keep that second fridge and not point out the problem?

Yes!

 

[bob135]

Ok, picture this. You own a store, say a resturant and you order a new appliance. A new fridge. The company delivers one to you, then the next day delivers annother by mistake and doesnt realize it. Do you think its wrong keep that second fridge and not point out the problem?

No, i don't think its wrong, unless you previously promised someone that you would give back extra fridges that they gave you accidentally. If they asked for it back, then of course you should give it to them, but otherwise why bother? I don't think inaction can be immoral unless you have already agreed to act in a certain situation and then fail to do so.

It would be property belonging to another, knowingly being in your control against the wishes of the owner. It cost them money, they had no intention of giving it away, and you did nothing to cause them intent to transfer possession to you. Yes, it's still wrong. Whether or not it can be technically defined as "stealing" or "theft" is a matter of jurisdictional statute. But it would be wrong regardless.

I don't know if you can say that you are holding it against the wishes of the owner, since the owner is unaware of its existence (otherwise he would be getting it back). They intended to give it away, they just made the mistake of giving you an extra.

 

[loriersea]

Yes, it's wrong. I'm not sure if it's officially stealing, but it's wrong. Plus, who the heck wants two refridgerators? Energy costs are so high now, it's bad enough having to pay to keep one running.

I ordered a bunch of furniture from IKEA a few years ago, and I'd ordered four dressers and they sent me seven. I called and told them, but apparently it would have been more trouble to send a truck out and bring them back than to just let me keep them, so I got three extra dressers, guilt-free. So, in that case, honesty was indeed the best policy.

 

[Mskedi]

Since it was their mistake, I would expect them to deal with all the fees involved in returning the refrigerator, but I would absolutely tell them about the mistake. I would consider it stealing not to. Likewise, I give back money when I notice someone has given me too much change. I don't see the difference in those things.

 

[justanobserver]

Ok, picture this. You own a store, say a resturant and you order a new appliance. A new fridge. The company delivers one to you, then the next day delivers annother by mistake and doesnt realize it. Do you think its wrong keep that second fridge and not point out the problem?

Yes, I think for me (I am the only one I can answer for) it would be wrong. I would refuse to accept it and tell the delivery guy I just got one already from them.

Dont need the hassle of the Appliance Store owner bothering me everyday with phone calls or visits, taking up the busy time I have to run my restaraunt for the return of the 'fridge or taking me to small claims court - more time and money lost. I am trying to run/start a business and the negative press wouldnt do me any good; ergo, I may have just made a good customer who has friends that will eat at my place and word of mouth is good advertisement.