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Is it possible to be sinless

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1Cr 15:47 The first man [was] of the earth, [made] of dust; the second Man [is] the Lord from heaven.
1Cr 15:48 As [was] the [man] of dust, so also [are] those [who are made] of dust; and as [is] the heavenly [Man], so also [are] those [who are] heavenly.
1Cr 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the [man] of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly [Man].

If you can understand the meanings of these scripture, you will see that to be born of the flesh is to be born in sin. This is where many fall prey to the temptation that the baby has not sinned but because Adam sinned, all who come after him are born in this sinful flesh. The state to which we fell from Gods divine nature into the nature of Satan. They have not committed a sin but they have the nature of sin from the flesh. Don't believe it, who teaches a baby to steal candy once he has had a taste and is told he can't have any more. It is the nature within us from the flesh.

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If you can understand the meanings of these scripture, you will see that to be born of the flesh is to be born in sin. This is where many fall prey to the temptation that the baby has not sinned but because Adam sinned, all who come after him are born in this sinful flesh. The state to which we fell from Gods divine nature into the nature of Satan. They have not committed a sin but they have the nature of sin from the flesh. Don't believe it, who teaches a baby to steal candy once he has had a taste and is told he can't have any more. It is the nature within us from the flesh.

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And in taking on flesh Yeshua experienced the same temptations that we all do, but overcame it to show the fallibly of negative thinking in that it could not be done in our sinful flesh.. As Yeshua said... Go and sin no more.. He believes it can be done.. He did it in the flesh.. and we should believe it too.. with His help .. of course.;)
 
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Jesus was "born of the flesh", yet had no "sin nature".
Experienced the same temptations that we all do.. You will need a verse that states this "no sin nature"...Arminianism is a school of soteriological thought within Protestant Christianity based on the theological ideas of the Dutch Reformed theologian Jacobus Arminius (1560-1609 A.D.) and his historic followers, the Remonstrants. The doctrine's acceptance stretches through much of mainstream Christianity, including evangelical Protestantism till today. Arminians believe Adam’s sin has resulted in the rest of mankind inheriting a propensity to sin, commonly referred to as having a “sin nature.” This sin nature causes us to sin in the same way that a cat’s nature causes it to meow, it just comes naturally. According to this view, man cannot stop sinning on his own; that is why God gives a universal grace to all to enable us to stop. In Arminianism, this grace is called prevenient grace. According to this view, we are not held accountable for Adam’s sin, just our own. But again this teaching runs contrary to the fact that all bear the punishment for sin, even though all may not have sinned in a manner similar to Adam (please read all these Scriptures, it’s important that you do. 1 Corinthians 15:22; Romans 5:12-18). Nor is the teaching of prevenient grace explicitly found in Holy Scriptures.
 
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Experienced the same temptations that we all do.. You will need a verse that states this "no sin nature"...
There is no verse that states "sinful nature". Since a positive statement cannot be found, requiring me to provide the negative is unnecessary.
 
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There is no verse that states "sinful nature". Since a positive statement cannot be found, requiring me to provide the negative is unnecessary.
why unnecessary.. only the banks can make money out of nothing....
 
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Maybe it should be asked .. Did Adam’s sin had any effect upon the souls of his descendants other than his sinful example influencing those who followed after him to also sin? Is sin a choice?
There most definitely is an effect upon the human race as a result of Adam's sin. But that effect is not one of some inherited sin, or an inherited sin nature.
The effect is twofold: 1) mortality: Adam and Eve were driven from the Garden of Eden and humanity was barred from the Tree of Life.
2) spiritual separation from God. Jesus said that "flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit."

We are born without the Holy Spirit. Apart from His influence in our lives, we are going to do what seems natural: obey the natural desires of the flesh.

James 1 tells us "each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death."
 
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Experienced the same temptations that we all do.. You will need a verse that states this "no sin nature"...Arminianism is a school of soteriological thought within Protestant Christianity based on the theological ideas of the Dutch Reformed theologian Jacobus Arminius (1560-1609 A.D.) and his historic followers, the Remonstrants. The doctrine's acceptance stretches through much of mainstream Christianity, including evangelical Protestantism till today. Arminians believe Adam’s sin has resulted in the rest of mankind inheriting a propensity to sin, commonly referred to as having a “sin nature.” This sin nature causes us to sin in the same way that a cat’s nature causes it to meow, it just comes naturally. According to this view, man cannot stop sinning on his own; that is why God gives a universal grace to all to enable us to stop. In Arminianism, this grace is called prevenient grace. According to this view, we are not held accountable for Adam’s sin, just our own. But again this teaching runs contrary to the fact that all bear the punishment for sin, even though all may not have sinned in a manner similar to Adam (please read all these Scriptures, it’s important that you do. 1 Corinthians 15:22; Romans 5:12-18). Nor is the teaching of prevenient grace explicitly found in Holy Scriptures.
Is this directed at me? I really don't care what Arminian doctrine says. Prevenient Grace is no more biblical that Original Sin or Sin Nature. None of these concepts are taught in the Bible.
And, yes reading all of Scripture is important. So is carefully studying all of Scripture, understanding it and living according to it.
 
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