is it OK?

[CharismaticEnigma]

is it alright for somebody to want another person to got to Hell?

 

[LowGearMonster]

Definetly no. That isn't good. That the same as saying you hate them and Jesus says that you doing that is murdering them with your heart. Definetly not good stuff.

 

[knownbeforetime]

Never. I know these days we throw the term about but it is never okay to say it or mean it.

Jesus Christ wants everyone to come to Him. Likewise, all Christians should want the same.

It's just an all-around bad thing...

 

[Rafael]

If God takes no pleasure in the wicked'd death, then I should not either.

Eze 18:32 "For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies," declares the Lord GOD. "Therefore, repent and live."

Eze 33:11 "Say to them, ‘As I live!’ declares the Lord GOD, ‘I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn back, turn back from your evil ways! Why then will you die, O house of Israel?’

 

[CharismaticEnigma]

ya? wut if the person I'm talking about makes my life a living hell? wut if the person I'm talking bout abuses me?

 

[jesusfreak1991]

Jesus loved everyone when he died on the cross and he wants to save as many people and bring them into his family. instead of hating them try to love them as yourself.

 

[LowGearMonster]

ya? wut if the person I'm talking about makes my life a living hell? wut if the person I'm talking bout abuses me?

Still not good. Jesus says love your enemy. It's pretty tough trust me. The flesh isn't your enemy. Sin is.

 

[progressivegal]

Everyone thinks thoughts like that sometimes. It's not a good thing, nor is it a loving thing, but it's a perfectly human thought to think and it doesn't make you any better or worse than anyone else. Pray to God that you may love this person, that's something I've been trying to do lately, and instead of feeling hate I start to feel peacefulness.

 

[tapero]

Everyone thinks thoughts like that sometimes. It's not a good thing, nor is it a loving thing, but it's a perfectly human thought to think and it doesn't make you any better or worse than anyone else. Pray to God that you may love this person, that's something I've been trying to do lately, and instead of feeling hate I start to feel peacefulness.

ditto and then;

I agree that many of us have had the passing thought, but in reality, we don't want to see anyone go to hell. I agree with praying to love this person or praying for them in general. Sometimes asking for favor with a person helps. David was hunted by Saul for no reason but jealousy and David would not kill God's annointed (Saul).

 

[super mom]

no love ouyr enemy as you would oyur brother

 

[NacDan]

ya? wut if the person I'm talking about makes my life a living hell? wut if the person I'm talking bout abuses me?

This is what Jesus had to say about loving our enemies:

"Here's another old saying that deserves a second look: "Eye for eye, tooth for tooth.' Is that going to get us anywhere? Here's what I propose: "Don't hit back at all.' If someone strikes you, stand there and take it. If someone drags you into court and sues for the shirt off your back, giftwrap your best coat and make a present of it. And if someone takes unfair advantage of you, use the occasion to practice the servant life.No more ***-for-tat stuff. Live generously. "You're familiar with the old written law, "Love your friend,' and its unwritten companion, "Hate your enemy.' I'm challenging that. I'm telling you to love your enemies. Let them bring out the best in you, not the worst. When someone gives you a hard time, respond with the energies of prayer, for then you are working out of your true selves, your God-created selves. This is what God does. He gives his best--the sun to warm and the rain to nourish--to everyone, regardless: the good and bad, the nice and nasty. If all you do is love the lovable, do you expect a bonus? Anybody can do that. If you simply say hello to those who greet you, do you expect a medal? Any run-of-the-mill sinner does that.

"In a word, what I'm saying is, Grow up. You're kingdom subjects. Now live like it. Live out your God-created identity. Live generously and graciously toward others, the way God lives toward you.

So, in a word, YES, even if they make your life a "living hell".

Now, having said that, you are not obligated to remain in an abusive situation. If someone is physically or mentally abusing you, you must do whatever you must to get out of that situation. After you get out of that relationship, you will ask God to help you to forgive your "enemy."

When the Lord was nailed to a cross in the cruelist form of punishment known to man at the time, he said, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." (Luke 23:34).

He overcame and you shall too.

Danny

 

[Under_His_Shadow]

is it alright for somebody to want another person to got to Hell?

Only if that person is Satan or his emissaries!!

Once we receive Jesus Christ as our Savior, His Holy Spirit then lives in our heart/spirit and helps us realize:
1) How deserving of hell we ourselves are;
2) The potential that lies dormant in our own, old, sinful nature to do the same evil things (and worse) that that person is doing to us; and finally,
3) He gives us a love for other sinners like ourselves, and a strong desire to see them receive God's love, salvation, and eternal life instead of damnation/hell!

 

[Kaitsu]

Hi CharismaticEnigma

ya? wut if the person I'm talking about makes my life a living hell? wut if the person I'm talking bout abuses me?

I think there are several issues all combined here, and it is important to unravel them.

Firstly, as many have already said, the Christian faith only supports love for one another, there are no exceptions to that. It is our 2nd commandment from Jesus Himself. Jesus even specifically refers to situations such as you mention:

"But I tell you: Love your enemies! and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven." Matt 5:44

But that does not mean that you have to limply sit back and tolerate what is going on and pretend that it isn't happening or that you can do nothing about it. There is a need to distinguish between the person and the sin - love the former and hate the latter. Jesus says:

"“If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector." Matt 18:15-17

Love does not prevent you from raising the issue and seeking a solution to it. The solution, of course, depends on the matter, but whatever it is, it should aim at reaching a constructive and enduring peace between you. My understanding of Jesus´words above is that if you cannot reach such a solution in spite of all your efforts then you should turn your back upon the person until they finally realise their error. Remembering:

"If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone." Rom 12:18

Note: as far as it depends on you. i.e. you cannot expect to resolve every situation single-handed - it requires input from both sides.

Finally, we should also remember, in prayer, to leave all such matters to God, for God resolves everything:

"Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” [ Deut. 32:35] says the Lord." Rom 12:19

Who better to settle all accounts than God himself?

Evil tends to beget evil, but we can ourselves cut off evil threads by following Paul's exhortation:

"On the contrary: “If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.” Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." Rom 12:20,21

I hope this helps

kaitsu

 

[arrowhead]

Love your neighbours as you love yourself - therefore you shouldn't want someone to go to hell.

God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked - He doesn't want anyone to go to hell hence He paid the price once and for all so we don't have to if we choose Him. Christ DIED for us to give us a way out of hell and be with Him instead - Christ didn't want us to go to hell that badly! Whomever you're on about God loves him/her soooo very very much with a faithful and pure love - it breaks His heart if we're not with Him. It would grief God if you truly have such a desire for someone to go to hell. Bible says don't hate. And don't judge. Don't think "oh s/he deserves hell" - lol hey mate we all do cus we've all sinned - that's why God's grace is so amazing!

Lol I'm presuming you're a Christian who cares about what God feels and if you don't care what God feels in this - I can only say, hating someone as much as to the extent of wishing them to go to hell is VERY unhealthy. It's not them you're hurting it's yourself.

So all in all - no it's not ok! - but God will forgive you - maybe you should pray for the person instead. Bible says love your enemies and when you're kind to them it's like putting hot coals onto their heads! Sounds appealing for an enemy don't it? - do it by being kind then and love them! Start praying for them - and gradually God will show you summit else and maybe give you a change of heart. Learn to love them instead - tbh that's the best gift, and the best pay-back you can give them! I hope you do it out of love though and not view them as your enemies.

 

[Mustaphile]

ya? wut if the person I'm talking about makes my life a living hell? wut if the person I'm talking bout abuses me?

You have to always love someone, that doesn't mean you have to stay around them. If they are bringing out such contempt in you that you want the worst for them, you probably need to put some distance between yourself and the other person, simply because your ability to love them has been compromised. Retreat from them so that you can once more forgive them and love them.

I love my sister for instance, but she stretches my love further than I can take it sometimes, if we are in close proximity for too long. When two sides are in conflict, they call a ceasefire and both go back to their respective sides. Tentative dialogs are started to bring the two parties back together. Compare how peace is brought about in the world around you. War is like the part of you that wants to say to someone else, "Go to hell!". There is no love in it. You might grind that person under foot and stand victorious over them, but what have you achieved? You've just destroyed somebody. You don't want someones destruction, you want them to live and love too. The only way to do that is to never stop loving them, and always forgive. It might take some sort of ceasefire and withdrawal followed by some negotiation, but it's well worth the effort. If you can't reconcile then stay apart. The goal should always be to attempt to reconcile at some stage, it might just be delayed if the conflict is too great.

 

[Under_His_Shadow]

Good advice, Mustaphile!

 

[Diamonds2004]

you ask that question about wishing someone to go to hell, but the fact is what it is, love one another as I have loved you.. As to the question about someone abusing you, what do you exactly mean by "abuse". Is it physical abuse or is that person just throwing insults at you. Abuse can sometimes be to general in its use.

So what kind of abuse is it? If physical, contact the police, because its obvious that one or both you and the other person can't control themselves and need a third party to settle the problem for you. Unless, you or the other person, whoever has the control thing, get a hold of themselves, then either of you are in no position to making a solution between yourselves.

So, what ever the abuse is, you need help from a thrid party. Pastor? Police? You know better then I on that one, but do seek godly help.

 

[Mashley]

The Bible says that you should love even your enemies. If you love somebody, you won't want them to go to hell.

 

[TheMainException]

Yikes...no.....as Christians....I can see you aren't one.....(no offense, just stating a fact)....we are called to love others......we don't have to like them....but we shouldn't wish them death or eternity in hell....even as a Christian I have wished hell on someone close to me...and although I'm still very angry, I've realized that I don't know what is going on in that person's heart and mind that makes them the way they are and even though they are not the nicest person in the world....I need to extend a loving hand to them and show them Christ, not how much I hate them. I just don't like them....but I do love them....does that make sense? I mean.....I don't like to hang with them...but because I love them, I do nice things for them and don't spit in their food whenever they turn their back.

 

[carmi]

ya? wut if the person I'm talking about makes my life a living hell? wut if the person I'm talking bout abuses me?

If you are abused by this person, it is understandable that you want to wish this person to go away so that he/she can't abuse you anymore. But there are other ways, talk to someone you can trust and tell them what is being done to you. If you feel you can't trust someone, there are hotlines (free - you don't have to pay anything) and you can talk to someone who would know how to help you.