seebs said:Ahh, but Christian liberty trumps pretty much any attempt at lists.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by Christian liberty. Could you define what you think Christian liberty is?
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seebs said:Ahh, but Christian liberty trumps pretty much any attempt at lists.
Eve_Sundancer said:And that's ok for you, but not for all people.
And actually, I think God gives us what we need in order to be closer to him. This may mean we need to laugh, this may mean we need to be serious. God wants us to be in balance -- for some of us being serious is harder work than being humorous, and vice-versa. We each have our individual needs and tendencies when it comes to God.Eve_Sundancer said:Not everyone is the type of person to take it that far. Some are completely happy keeping their life the way it is and experiencing faith their own way. We should allow everyone the freedom to choose rather than to force everyone to your way.
Eve_Sundancer said:We should allow everyone the freedom to choose rather than to force everyone to your way.
Ahh, but Christian liberty trumps pretty much any attempt at lists.
What? How can you laugh too much? I've never come across people like you in my life, i feel sorry for you.
People don't laugh enough IMO.
And i'm sure if god did exist, he wouldn't be that pedantic.
You have been so totally brainwashed, do you actually have any natural human emotions?
I just hope none of my family, present or in the future never have to have a conversation with someone like you.
It scares me.
I honestly hope that the two of you really examine your beliefs at some point, because it would be a very sad thing for you to realize you've wasted your entire life away when you reach the end of the road. From my view you guys are completely fanatical and have loss some touch with reality. There are many faithfull christians who spend their time helping others and spreading their beliefs, and they still manage to enjoy the some of the wonders we are offered in this life.
If you're serious then I feel very sorry for you.
Not everyone is the type of person to take it that far. Some are completely happy keeping their life the way it is and experiencing faith their own way. We should allow everyone the freedom to choose rather than to force everyone to your way.
In addition, what is time? You are going to shorten your life by ten years from all the strain you are putting on your heart, fretting that you might waste a second.
This is one of the saddest threads I've seen in a long time. Some brands of Christianity have the image of being anti fun but in this thread we've had at two posters who are literally and adamantly advocating lives without any personal enjoyment. Personally I think that's extremely unhealthy.
Like computers?John812 said:No, I don't think food is evil, unless its an offering to demons or some other evil purpose. I don't think rocks are evil. These are a couple examples I can think of, I think there are probably lots more.
Irish_Guevara said:Like computers?
Like computers?
Stefan Davidovich said:Freedom from sin NOT freedom to sin. Sure there is freedom...from ceremonial rituals. God's laws still stand.
However, it is abundantly clear to me that watching TV is in the realm of Christian liberty. This is sin only because of how it affects us personally. If you are not convicted against it, it is probably not sinful for you.
There is no Christian prohibition on things that are "unclean", because they are not unclean in themselves, but only when we see uncleanliness in them. If we come to see them as cleansed, then they are
This is utterly unlike the Old Covenant, and represents a major departure from it. But, it is what Christ gave us.
Stefan Davidovich said:I would say it is sinful to waste time and that each of us should check our use of time including our TV time...you are right - TV is not sinful in and of itself, but I didn't say it was. I'm addressing the issue of time.
Do you not think that 'God' has better things to do than worry about whether you watch the simpsons or not?
And this is where we differ. If someone uses a computer in a wrong way, does that make the computer evil? No. The persons actions are evil, the computer is a computer. Guns can be used for murder, but that does not make the gun sinful, the murder is. The same thing goes with TV shows. The shows are not evil, unless they cause you to sin in someway, in which case the shows are still not evil, but you should stop watching them that you might avoid sin.John812 said:No, I don't see anything wrong with computers. What we use them for is another matter.
God Bless!
philN said:If someone uses a computer in a wrong way, does that make the computer evil? No. The persons actions are evil, the computer is a computer.