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Is it logical, or Bibical to pray for another person?

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And no, no, I don't mean pray for their health or salvation or situation or whatever. I mean, in like a 'romantic' sense? I mean, let's say you "wanted" someone, (not in that way ;)), like you wanted them to be your boyfriend/girlfriend, is it "wrong", (for lack of a better word...hey it's 2am, I'm not in the mood to be a Thesaurus ;) :p), to ask God FOR them? Is it a futile request?

Can we chose who we want to be with and marry, or is it not up to us? And if you do think it isn't up to us, why do you think that? Where exactly, what verses, situations, stories are you looking at in the Bible, to be able to say that God picks for you? What say you all about the situation?
 
Originally posted by Blessed-one
i think we can pray for the characteristics of future partner, but not necessarily the specific person.
oh well... but as Susan said, who knows?!

I think as you do too, but I mean, if you like someone, who HAS all those characteristics, why couldn't you just pray for THAT person? Why couldn't you just be like, "JC! How's it going? Hey look, I really like so and so, and I think we could be good together, so you know, can you hook me up, please? :pray: "

Agh, I don't know..I've just been thinking you know? :scratch:
 
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Originally posted by Susan
AAAH! i didn't see the symbol saying you're a girl lol, it showed up as a question mark.
There goes that stupid old rumor mill again if no one reads this far. . .:sigh:

lol...I was wondering...but I figured you were just joking around with me. You know, like you had that sort of sarcastic humor that I have. :D

Hehe....if it makes you feel better, people think me and one of my best friends, (Caryn), are sleeping together. :eek: (Ugh... *:sick:* just thinking about it).
 
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There is nothing int he Bible that says you CAN'T pray for a specific person to fall in love with you, keeping in mind that God does not use anyone like a puppet. He won't make them fall for you against their will, but you can pray that He will point you out to him/her, and that your character will develop into good spouse material.
 
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Originally posted by WorldsApart24

Is it logical, or Bibical to pray for another person?

The most popular form of prayer, petition, poses some compicated problems. At first glance, asking a god to do something or other seems perfectly logical. Who better to ask? But the only way that such asking makes sense is if there is a chance that you might receive a positive response. What would be the point of having billions of prayers offered beseechingly to a god who never intended at any time to answer a single on of them?
A more pointless, time-wasting, soul-draining exercise is difficult to imagine, and a god who would demand such a practice would have to be sadistic. Such bait-and-switch tactics are difficult to attribute to any god, even the one who sent the Flood. On the other hand, if prayer is encouraged because there is a chance that requests will be granted, you run headlong into the unavoidable requirement to explain the seemingly capricious nature of some of these boons.
 
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"Your Father knows what you need before you ask him."
Matt 6:8

"Thy will be done." Matt 6:10

It is important to remember that Jesus taught us how to pray. I am far from claiming that this means we can only repeat the Lord's prayer over and over, but we can surely learn how to pray from it.

Praying for an individual, specific person to fall in love with you seems short-sighted. It does not acknowledge God in all His power and authority. What we often think would be best for us many times is exactly what we don't need. Yet, God knows what we need, in spite of our wants, and our prayers should be that He would reveal these True needs that we might pray for them and not for our mere desires.

There is a big difference between praying for a godly spouse that will walk the Faith with us, and asking for Julie, that cute woman who sits in the front row. It's also one thing to pray "Dear Lord, be with Julie. She seems to love you, and, if it is your will, may I get to know her." and "Dear Lord, I just want to marry Julie. She's so beautiful and I'm in love with her, and please let us be together and happy."

Do you see the transition? Julie becomes an idol and takes precedence over the will of God in one's life.

So...no, it is not wrong to pray for a godly spouse, or to ask God if a certain person might be the one. But, yet, it's very wrong to pray for individual people or things simply because one desires them. It is called covetousnes and idolatry, and they are not of the Spirit, but of the flesh.

Peace to all who seek it,
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Is it logical, or Bibical to pray for another person?

The most popular form of prayer, petition, poses some complicated problems. At first glance, asking a god to do something or other seems perfectly logical. Who better to ask? But the only way that such asking makes sense is if there is a chance that you might receive a positive response. What would be the point of having billions of prayers offered beseechingly to a god who never intended at any time to answer a single one of them?
A more pointless, time-wasting, soul-draining exercise is difficult to imagine, and a god who would demand such a practice would have to be sadistic. Such bait-and-switch tactics are difficult to attribute to any god, even the one who sent the Flood. On the other hand, if prayer is encouraged because there is a chance that requests will be granted, you run headlong into the unavoidable requirement to explain the seemingly capricious nature of some of these boons.
 
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Originally posted by Othniel
"Your Father knows what you need before you ask him."
Matt 6:8

"Thy will be done." Matt 6:10

It is important to remember that Jesus taught us how to pray. I am far from claiming that this means we can only repeat the Lord's prayer over and over, but we can surely learn how to pray from it.

Praying for an individual, specific person to fall in love with you seems short-sighted. It does not acknowledge God in all His power and authority. What we often think would be best for us many times is exactly what we don't need. Yet, God knows what we need, in spite of our wants, and our prayers should be that He would reveal these True needs that we might pray for them and not for our mere desires.

There is a big difference between praying for a godly spouse that will walk the Faith with us, and asking for Julie, that cute woman who sits in the front row. It's also one thing to pray "Dear Lord, be with Julie. She seems to love you, and, if it is your will, may I get to know her." and "Dear Lord, I just want to marry Julie. She's so beautiful and I'm in love with her, and please let us be together and happy."

Do you see the transition? Julie becomes an idol and takes precedence over the will of God in one's life.

So...no, it is not wrong to pray for a godly spouse, or to ask God if a certain person might be the one. But, yet, it's very wrong to pray for individual people or things simply because one desires them. It is called covetousnes and idolatry, and they are not of the Spirit, but of the flesh.

Peace to all who seek it,
<><

I appreciate your insight, indeed, I appreciate EVERYONE'S insight into this matter. I thank ya'll for taking the time to read and reply, (to those of you who have). :)

But I think somehow I either gave off, or you guys are interepretting it as me wanting God to "make" somone, (Jeremiah) fall in love with me. And well, that's just not it at all. Firstly, because I don't believe God "makes" or would "make" someone do anything just cause someone else asks. That in and of itself is contrary to the nature of the very God we believe in. If God wanted to "make" people do things, everyone in the world would believe in him and be saved. Inbesides, God's not some Jeanie sitting up there in Heaven who's sole purpose is to respond to our every whim. HE'S God, not us, so I ultimelty believe, it's his will, not my own, that'll be done. (Whether that will be me ending up with Jeremiah, or me ending up with..who knows).

I agree with you completely that sometimes, what we think is best for us, isn't what's best for us. And that God can see things, we can't. I mean, I look at Jeremiah, and I think, he's everything that I would want in a spouse, in a friend, in someone I'd want in my life. He has every quality and trait that only in my dreams would I have thought someone else could have. He's like the "REAL" version of my dream guy. Kind of like, the person I always imagined in my head, is now out of my head and in real life. He isn't just some 'hot' guy to me, who I have this school girl crush on. He's like, the embodiment of the guy I sit down and pray for. You know, like when you sit down and say, God, I want a guy/girl who's this and this and that and this, and you name off all these things you hope they'll be. And now, imagine putting all those things into a real life actual person, and it's like...wow.

But I understand that even though I look at him and think he's like.....God's gift, I also know that God can see something either in him or me, that in the end makes us not go good with each other, despite what I 'think'. Which brings me back to the orginal question of, is it 'right' to even pray about it? I mean, do I give God my two cents on the issue, and ask for a chance to have him in my life, or do I NOT pray and not do anything and trust that whatever happens is for the best? Is it Biblical to want somone in your life enough, (in a spouse..romantic way), to pray for that chance, or should you not try and play God by thinking you know what's best for you, and who you should marry?

I honestly don't pray with the intention of God just "giving" him to me on a silver platter. I pray more for the chance to see. I guess I just want to know if I should or not.
 
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Originally posted by ateo
Is it logical, or Bibical to pray for another person?

The most popular form of prayer, petition, poses some complicated problems. At first glance, asking a god to do something or other seems perfectly logical. Who better to ask? But the only way that such asking makes sense is if there is a chance that you might receive a positive response. What would be the point of having billions of prayers offered beseechingly to a god who never intended at any time to answer a single one of them?
A more pointless, time-wasting, soul-draining exercise is difficult to imagine, and a god who would demand such a practice would have to be sadistic. Such bait-and-switch tactics are difficult to attribute to any god, even the one who sent the Flood. On the other hand, if prayer is encouraged because there is a chance that requests will be granted, you run headlong into the unavoidable requirement to explain the seemingly capricious nature of some of these boons.

But what happens if you just pray to talk to your friend, your Father? You don't want anything from him, you just wanna talk to him. And what if he, being your friend, your Father, just wants to hear from you, wants to hear your voice, wants to know you care enough to spend time with him in and by prayer? I don't think it's such a pointless exercise then. (I don't think it's pointless at all, but well, I had to take a completely opposite approach then the two you already took. :p :D)
 
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