Is it immoral to throw out my sisters stuff without telling her??

[alpha&omega95]

So my sister doesn't live at home any more but she used to be VERY into the occult (new age stuff like horoscopes, astrology, tarot cards, law of attraction, praying to the universe, crystals etc). She isn't as involved anymore but she still likes that stuff. I truly know that it is the reason she is depressed and she is being oppressed by satanic spirits that are tricking her. I want to take away (over time) all that stuff and chuck it out, burn it, recycle it - WHATEVER. But she will literally kill me if she knew, she would 100 percent never speak to me again, I will be shunned from my family as a lunatic and have to apologise and probably buy it all for her again. I feel like she won't notice most of it if it starts disappearing from our family home, but if she asks I just want to be like hmm I don't know where it is (she already knows I'm against that stuff anyway). Im scared if she finds out I did throw it all out that she will go back into the occult just to spite me and do it to rebel and say NO ONE CAN CONTROL ME! Im so tempted to throw these evil things out. But is it wrong because I don't own all of it? If I lie about where they are and it helps her move on from this stuff is it wrong? Im doing it to protect her so when she comes back home she's not tempted to open up an occult book! Help and please be nice to me lol

 

[Poppyseed78]

I have a few questions. How old are you? How old is she? Is that your parents' house? Where does your sister live? How often does she visit?

Since it's her stuff, I'd let it be. Maybe I'd start boxing it up and putting it in the basement for storage, so it's there if she ever wants it. I understand you don't agree with what those objects represent, but it's not your place to just throw them out.

 

[alpha&omega95]

she's 31 and I'm 21. Its my parents house where I live and she moved out of it. She doesn't visit often, she only comes if theres a birthday here or my niece might come over (I would say 10 times a year max)

 

[High Fidelity]

Yes, it is. It's her belongings.

How would you feel if she found your Bible equally objectionable and threw that out?

Pray for her and be there for her.

The source of her depression is not something that can be diagnosed off-the-cuff with no clinical observation or diagnosis as to its cause, either. You're not qualified to make those observations.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

I think it is a matter of personal property , the law, and respect for your sister. You don't have to like what she liked but you also shouldn't throw her stuff in the garbage because you don't like it.
Box it up out of your sight and call her to come get it. Put it in storage somewhere in your house with her name on it and forget it. It is her stuff, it is not your right to throw it in the garbage. That's mean spirited and doesn't reflect a higher level of heart or consciousness than what you imagine the occult materials she collected communicates .

 

[alpha&omega95]

* Background: She used to be basically get haunted by spirits that she herself thought were demons after starting to engage in these practices. This is the same time she became depressed and her major source of depression is having no meaning to her life. But yes I hear you guys out. Im not trying to punish her at all and/or be mean spirited in any way! Thanks

 

[High Fidelity]

In that cause it sounds like she's having mental health issues that go beyond any practices she partakes in.

I'd recommend you try and get her to see a psychologist.

Good luck

 

[alpha&omega95]

She doesn't see things regularly, she had a period of time about 10 years ago when she was being haunted when she was trying actively to communicate with spirits and she stopped the practices and the haunting stopped. She has been to a variety of psychologists over the years and none have ever thought there was any other issue besides anxiety and depression. Also I and my family don't believe her to have anything other than that either. I used to be depressed as an atheist for the same reason as she but I found Jesus, which for me fixed the meaninglessness in my life and I hope that for her too. Thanks for the input guys

 

[Erinny]

It sounds as if this home isn't her permanent home, right?

She may be in a much smaller place and has no room for it. Are the items in the way? Blocking doors or windows?

If not, and your parents haven't said anything about it, ask your parents first since after all, it's their home.

But don't do this yourself. If you owned the house it would be a different story, but you don't and you have no right to throw away or otherwise dispose of your sister's belongings. Would you want her to throw away your Bible?

Please think before doing something you'll regret, okay? I'll be praying for you.

 

[Cimorene]

It's not your stuff to throw out, & it's not your house. If your parents wanted to get rid of her stuff bc she doesn't live there anymore they could ask her to come pick it up, or ask if they could throw it out. If you just take it, you'd be stealing her stuff to throw it away. It's just wrong.

 

[ewq1938]

So my sister doesn't live at home any more but she used to be VERY into the occult (new age stuff like horoscopes, astrology, tarot cards, law of attraction, praying to the universe, crystals etc). She isn't as involved anymore but she still likes that stuff. I truly know that it is the reason she is depressed and she is being oppressed by satanic spirits that are tricking her. I want to take away (over time) all that stuff and chuck it out, burn it, recycle it - WHATEVER. But she will literally kill me if she knew, she would 100 percent never speak to me again, I will be shunned from my family as a lunatic and have to apologise and probably buy it all for her again. I feel like she won't notice most of it if it starts disappearing from our family home, but if she asks I just want to be like hmm I don't know where it is (she already knows I'm against that stuff anyway). Im scared if she finds out I did throw it all out that she will go back into the occult just to spite me and do it to rebel and say NO ONE CAN CONTROL ME! Im so tempted to throw these evil things out. But is it wrong because I don't own all of it? If I lie about where they are and it helps her move on from this stuff is it wrong? Im doing it to protect her so when she comes back home she's not tempted to open up an occult book! Help and please be nice to me lol

Either ask your parents to deal with it or ask your sister to pay for it to be shipped to her.

 

[LastAcorn99]

It’s obvious you love your sister and want what’s best for her. However, I would suggest you leave your sister’s things as is, because I feel that she has to be the one to decide when to get rid of the remnants of her past. Despite your best intentions, as you pointed out, it’s likely that your sister will consider your action as a rejection and hostility towards her. I feel that you should focus on winner her over to follow Christ through your expression on love, care, and concern for her. Regarding her depression, while her situation could be related to her spiritual battles, it is also very possible that she is struggling with clinical depression that needs medical intervention. I would suggest that you encourage her to see a doctor and get a diagnosis. I pray that God will give you wisdom regarding this. Blessings!

 

[CrystalDragon]

Like others have said, it's your sister's stuff, and you shouldn't throw it away just because you don't agree with it. Those things are part of her past, so she should get to decide what to do with them.

 

[Goodbook]

Tell her to get them, give her a time frame, if she doesn't come back for them then chuck them out.

It would be the same if you left a bible at home, maybe you'd come back for it or you might just say do what you like with it. If it was mouldy and all your stuff was taking up someone else's space its reasonable to request it be gone.

 

[Catherineanne]

So my sister doesn't live at home any more but she used to be VERY into the occult (new age stuff like horoscopes, astrology, tarot cards, law of attraction, praying to the universe, crystals etc). She isn't as involved anymore but she still likes that stuff. I truly know that it is the reason she is depressed and she is being oppressed by satanic spirits that are tricking her. I want to take away (over time) all that stuff and chuck it out, burn it, recycle it - WHATEVER. But she will literally kill me if she knew, she would 100 percent never speak to me again, I will be shunned from my family as a lunatic and have to apologise and probably buy it all for her again. I feel like she won't notice most of it if it starts disappearing from our family home, but if she asks I just want to be like hmm I don't know where it is (she already knows I'm against that stuff anyway). Im scared if she finds out I did throw it all out that she will go back into the occult just to spite me and do it to rebel and say NO ONE CAN CONTROL ME! Im so tempted to throw these evil things out. But is it wrong because I don't own all of it? If I lie about where they are and it helps her move on from this stuff is it wrong? Im doing it to protect her so when she comes back home she's not tempted to open up an occult book! Help and please be nice to me lol

Yes it would be wrong to throw it away, but you could put it all into a box, pray for the box to contain anything occult that may be lurking around, put a Bible on top as a reminder of your prayer and then hide the box in the attic or somewhere. That way if she asks you can tell her where it is without having to lie, but it can do no harm in the meantime.

 

[Catherineanne]

* Background: She used to be basically get haunted by spirits that she herself thought were demons after starting to engage in these practices. This is the same time she became depressed and her major source of depression is having no meaning to her life. But yes I hear you guys out. Im not trying to punish her at all and/or be mean spirited in any way! Thanks

Mental health issues are nothing to do with demons or possession.

 

[High Fidelity]

Tell her to get them, give her a time frame, if she doesn't come back for them then chuck them out.

It would be the same if you left a bible at home, maybe you'd come back for it or you might just say do what you like with it. If it was mouldy and all your stuff was taking up someone else's space its reasonable to request it be gone.

It presumably isn't encroaching on her personal space as it's most likely in the room she no longer inhabits.

If the parents want it gone, that's another story.

Ultimately it's someone else's possessions and there are likely laws protecting that property. We are, after all, to be submissive to the government and authorities over us, so one could quite rightly argue that the implications of throwing things out go well beyond immorality; but a matter of sin.

 

[Take Heart]

I understand where you're coming from and your frustrations and need to protect your sister. If my brother were to be once heavily into that and still have the stuff in his possession, I would be in great conflict about what to do. That being said, I don't think it would be meaningful at all if you were to dispose of her things- even if they are occult in nature. It would have to be her to dispose of them herself. As impossible and hard as that may seem now, I've seen God open the eyes, ears, and hearts of those who once were into the occult..like me. And what did I do? I threw away all of the things that were occult. I still have dvd's though that I know my family will notice if I were to throw them away- they're popular and by society's standards..would not even be considered 'occult' and would gladly let their children watch it without a second thought. Anyway..on the flip-side..if you WERE to throw out my stuff that I used to have that were occult in nature [at the time I was into it/sorta into it], I would have been super angry with you/anyone who threw it out and probably watch whatever occultic things I could just to get 'my fix' and fill in that 'void' that I physically lost. So yeah.. don't throw her stuff away, lol. All you can do is pray for her, for God to open her eyes, ears, and heart..for Him to soften and open her heart to His truth and for Him to reveal His truth to her and for the Holy Spirit to convict her heart. When dealing with the occult, any spiritual oppression/doors that were opened can be stubborn to let go. So don't be discouraged if your prayer isn't answered right away. This takes time..
If you have some sort of Christian revival event taking place near you, I would definitely invite her. It may help open her heart to God. But definitely persevere and persist in prayer.

 

[Goodbook]

Mum still has an idol its in the living room she doesnt pray to it though what I did was just cover it with the blood of Jesus in prayer so any evil spirit or ehatever operating from an occult portal doesnt have a hidey place. You can physically use grape joice and just wipe it with it.

It will give you peace of mind anyway. I know if I got rid of it without saying my mum would notice. I also covered dragons mouths with bull dog clips. Do wahtever it is you need to do, but pray FIRST.

Btw mum lives in the house. But if it was my sisters stuff and she didnt live there anymore i would say its going. If theres somewhere else she can store her stuff which she would need to pay for, suggest it. You can always just ask, she might even say I dont need that junk anymore, toss it.