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So what is wrong with slavery by the definition?
It is the ownership of another person's life without their consent.

It is a violation of another persons ability to choose their own path in life without their approval. How on earth can you think it being right in any way at all?

So much for your superior morality, you can't even condemn slavery.
 
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You did ask me. Didn't you?

Yes, and since when did anyone choose to become a slave based on how much their proposed master loved them?

Nonethelesss, Juve, you are now my slave.

Make me a sandwich. I want ham, cheese and lettuce. While you are in the kitchen, you may have a slice of bread for yourself, and I will permit you a thin scrape of butter if you want it. Clean up the crumbs, deliver my sandwich to me, and then you may go to bed. I will wake you if I want anything else.
 
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Do you find it hard to try not to sin everyday?
"Do or do not. There is no try." --- Yoda the Jedi
What do you to help you?
When it comes to sin, I help myself.

It is your fear of failure that gives it power over you. Only by facing your fear can you master it. Hint: Quit obsessing.

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Yes, and since when did anyone choose to become a slave based on how much their proposed master loved them?

Nonethelesss, Juve, you are now my slave.

Make me a sandwich. I want ham, cheese and lettuce. While you are in the kitchen, you may have a slice of bread for yourself, and I will permit you a thin scrape of butter if you want it. Clean up the crumbs, deliver my sandwich to me, and then you may go to bed. I will wake you if I want anything else.

OK, if so, you are not a good master, and I will make a revolution.

Try. Try to be a good master and see how would I react. Do you know how to be a good master? A good master not only wins the service of a slave, but he also wins the heart, the loyalty of a slave. Do you know how to do that?
 
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We have to spell out for you that pretending to be able to own another human being, to be able to buy and sell them, is bad?

Wow, just wow.

Once you bought a slave, you do not sell him.

Open your eyes. Buddy.
 
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It is the ownership of another person's life without their consent.

It is a violation of another persons ability to choose their own path in life without their approval. How on earth can you think it being right in any way at all?

So much for your superior morality, you can't even condemn slavery.

Where in your definition does it say the above (except the ownership)?

Want to try again on the definition?
 
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Once you bought a slave, you do not sell him.

Open your eyes. Buddy.
Why not? The man or woman is your property, if you can buy him or her, you can subsequently sell him or her. Buddy. If you can buy a slave, whom do you buy it from other than from someone who sells a slave? Buddy.

Read your bible, it clearly states that you can sell your slaves, although there are restrictions of the slave is hebrew (exodus 21:8). Buddy.

I really must ask by now, what do you think slavery is? I mean, you have clearly already shown that you are a sick little puppy, who thinks it is okay for one person to own another. But please enlighten me into how you think this can in any way be considered moral.
 
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Why not? The man or woman is your property, if you can buy him or her, you can subsequently sell him or her. Buddy. If you can buy a slave, whom do you buy it from other than from someone who sells a slave? Buddy.

Read your bible, it clearly states that you can sell your slaves, although there are restrictions of the slave is hebrew (exodus 21:8). Buddy.

I really must ask by now, what do you think slavery is? I mean, you have clearly already shown that you are a sick little puppy, who thinks it is okay for one person to own another. But please enlighten me into how you think this can in any way be considered moral.

A good master do not sell his slaves.
 
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A good master do not sell his slaves.
A good human doesn't hold slaves.

There is no such thing as a good slave master. Anyone treating someone else as property is a moral monster. Again, what do you think is good about holding someone as property?
 
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Where in your definition does it say the above (except the ownership)?

Want to try again on the definition?
Someone entering voluntary service with someone else is called servitude. A servant has the right to leave the arrangement at any time.

Slavery is done and always done without someone's consent. Now, I ask:

Do you think slavery should be legal? If so, how would you make it so? How would the state decide who goes into slavery or not?
 
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