Is it enough to make you stop buying?

[TheFathersDaughter]

Follow the discussion please. There is far more to this than just the subject of homosexuality.

Recently, AFA (and many "pro-family" groups) have decided to boycott against Ford for their support of homosexuality. They've celebrated that Ford's sales have gone down 7%. I find this very spiteful though. Not because it's against homosexuality. But because it's probably leaving hundreds of innocent or neutral people jobless because if this selfish want to get rid of that opinion (which is all it is, an opinion).

Is the support of homosexuality enough to make you stop buying?

To some people, they feel they're supporting it by giving their money to the company. I say, so? You're not supporting that cause. You're buying a new car which you will hopefully enjoy. Once you give them the money, it is not longer yours, it is theres. They can use it in any way they desire. Also, by not buying, you're putting a dent not in the head of the company that you WANT to effect, but in the small branches that have no say in the matter. In that effect, hundreds of those who don't neccesarily agree with Ford's opinions are now jobless.

Boycotting because of homosexual support is foolish, selfish, and not in God's plan. It's actually possibly putting a dent in God's plan by effectively changing the livelihood of those who work with homosexual-supporting big companies.

I repeat the question, is it enough to make you stop buying?

 

[Candide]

How about people stop buying Ford cars because of they are contributing to some of the other great moral issues of our time, like damage to the Environment?

How about people stop shopping at Wal Mart because of they don't give their workers the respect or rights that they deserve, and because they are one of the leading problems and contributers to the biggest moral issue of our time, the amazingly huge poverty gap?

How about people stop shopping at StarBucks because they are raping South American coffee farmers?

Gay people deserve the same respect and love that everybody else does. Period. There is no legitimate Christian reason (or morally correct reason, anyway) to boycott a company because "they support gay people". That's ridiculous.

 

[dpartlow]

Absolutely. I've informed my Ford Dealer that I will not be purchasing a Ford until the end of the boycott (and their support of deviancy). But if and when they do I will make my next purchase a Ford.

"Better is the rebuke of a friend than the soft words of an enemy"

This rebuke is being done for the good of corporate America - not to harm it. Unfortunately, Ford's own intransigence is driving them into ruin. Perhaps Corporate America will eventually repent if the financial penalties for their apostate actions are realized.

 

[dpartlow]

It's not ridiculous. It is what Paul commands us when he tells us not to buy idol meat. I agree that the Homosexual community should be treated with love - the love of the truth of the Bible.

Sometimes love means telling people that they are wrong - to encourage them back onto "the narrow path" that Jesus calls on us to follow. "Better is the rebuke of a friend (other Christians) than the soft words of an enemy (satan)"

 

[Candide]

So why not boycott any other the other things I have mentioned, for the decidedly worse things that they are doing?

 

[ReformedChapin]

Eh...fords suck anyways. But I think your placing the blame on the wrong camp. It's fords decidion to sercum to the world that causes conservative groups to react. Not seflishness.

 

[Brieuse]

I've already stopped supporting church book stores that sell homophobic merchandise.

 

[eastcoast_bsc]

I always buy Japanese or in the case of Ford, Mazda. Ford owns part of Mazda. If I were to boycott companies that held views in opposition to mine, I would probally starve to death. Think about the exploited migrant workers slaving to pick the fruits and vegetables that we eat. i know it is not fashionable for Fundamentalist to concern themselves with such mundane issues as exploited workers.

 

[Brieuse]

I always buy Japanese or in the case of Ford, Mazda. Ford owns part of Mazda. If I were to boycott companies that held views in opposition to mine, I would probally starve to death. Think about the exploited migrant workers slaving to pick the fruits and vegetables that we eat. i know it is not fashionable for Fundamentalist to concern themselves with such mundane issues as exploited workers.

Unfortunately, most global industries are exactly that. Global.

I could try boycott American products because they build those nasty Chryslers but then most of my products I buy would come from the Japanese whose terrible crime was to limit Toyota Supras to 160km per hour. Or the Germans, who built that nasty Beetle.

 

[Tenebrae]

Absolutely. I've informed my Ford Dealer that I will not be purchasing a Ford until the end of the boycott (and their support of deviancy). But if and when they do I will make my next purchase a Ford.

"Better is the rebuke of a friend than the soft words of an enemy"

This rebuke is being done for the good of corporate America - not to harm it. Unfortunately, Ford's own intransigence is driving them into ruin. Perhaps Corporate America will eventually repent if the financial penalties for their apostate actions are realized.

So eventually people all stop buying fords and as a result ford find that they have to make job cuts and start lettting people go 100 employees at a time.

Bear in mind the decisions to support what ever group would have been made at an executive level, and certainly not by the hirelings. How christian is it, to take action that could possibly lead to a whole bunch of people loosing jobs, all because the decisions of their superiors

 

[fuzzymel]

I cannot believe the double standards of some posters. Boycotting Ford because of gay support. I hope you also only buy fair trade products so farmers are not taken advantage of.

If not then you guys are just hypocrites. Most large companies violate ethics in some way so why not boycott them all? Or do you just pick what you find most offensive and ignore the rest?

 

[Candide]

Word.

 

[UberLutheran]

Ford makes lousy, gas-guzzling cars to begin with, so I wouldn't buy one of their cars.

Given that — I make a point of checking to see if a company who makes something that I want to purchase offers its employees domestic partner benefits and has a non-discrimination policy for gay and lesbian employees before I buy the product.

If the company offers those things, I buy their product.

If the company does NOT offers those things, I buy the product from a competitor which does offer those things.

And this is one of the things that my rather large email list (both gay and straight people, but almost all liberals) shares among ourselves. If a company hurts people, or hurts the environment — then we don't buy from that company.

Note to conservatives who may read this: be sure to visit my CF website and give me a "1" for daring to hold an alternative opinion from yours.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Again, Uber, I don't care. If I did that, I could quite possibly starve if the grocery stores started doing that. I buy wherever I can afford or wherever I prefer unless they're directly and physically hurting people and my buying the product will affect and worsen that. I don't see how buying a product from a company who doesn't have discrimination laws will affect that. But say if I buy real diamonds, they force children to dig for those in Third World countries. If I buy one, it's encouraging that behavior for money.

 

[ReformedChapin]

I cannot believe the double standards of some posters. Boycotting Ford because of gay support. I hope you also only buy fair trade products so farmers are not taken advantage of.

If not then you guys are just hypocrites. Most large companies violate ethics in some way so why not boycott them all? Or do you just pick what you find most offensive and ignore the rest?

Obviously you cannot pick on every single issue you dislike. Just the major one that is affecting our culture during our time.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Obviously you cannot pick on every single issue you dislike. Just the major one that is affecting our culture during our time.

I could've swore violence was more major than homosexuality. But then, violence doesn't let you single out a minority does it NewGuy?

 

[ReformedChapin]

I could've swore violence was more major than homosexuality. But then, violence doesn't let you single out a minority does it NewGuy?

Violence? What are you talking about? There is no company publically supporting violence. Stop with your useless accusations.

 

[fuzzymel]

What about slave labour or is that not as bad as gays?

 

[Candide]

TheFathersDaughter, that's the problem with most Americans these days. The reality is that you (gasp) can stand up for what you believe in, and still survive in our society. Join a food co-op, start a garden, or start a stinking food co-op. It's all about what takes priority in your life. If you really care about not supporting companies that take advantage of their workers and do many other horrible things, than do something about it. Too many people use the ridiculous excuse of "well then I just couldn't buy anything", or "well that's more expensive" to weasel out of their moral responsibility as Christians. Put the rubber to the road. Do something about it. Don't just sit there and say "gee, it's bad", and then do nothing. That's as bad as doing the act yourself.

 

[ReformedChapin]

What about slave labour or is that not as bad as gays?

No one is supporting that publically.