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Thank you... your are a good man StoneI think it means, if you define a christian as one that believes in Y-shua yes she is, if you define a christian as one that belives that the christian doctrines created by man are mandatory, like the Eucharist, then she is not.
the christian doctrines created by man.... like the Eucharist
This would make a good thread subject on it's own...You don't think the Lord's Supper was given by God??
OK, This I can understand.I think it means, if you define a christian as one that believes in Y-shua yes she is, if you define a christian as one that belives that the christian doctrines created by man are mandatory, like the Eucharist, then she is not.
This I still don't get (and I promise I'm not trying to be difficult). Would stone's statement above basically sum up what you are saying here?I mean Christian in the sense of faith in the Messiah (Christ) but in the jewish sense.
You don't think the Lord's Supper was given by God??
Let me know the thread this gets discussed in I'm there.You don't think the Lord's Supper was given by God??
For some bizzare reason I cannot understand why you think church traditions are not "Messianic". Perhaps this could be debated in the debate sub-forum?
I'd relish the opportunity to compare 21st Century Christianity as you understand it and classical Christian Orthodoxy with 1st Century Judaism just to see who comes up looking the most like 1st Century Judaism.
I agree with your friend. That is why they were called "the Way, a sect of the Jews."Technically so is "Messianic Judaism". I have a Jewish friend, and she hates the term as all Jews believe in a "messiah"... whether he has come yet or not. She always says the term is redundant.
We call it passover. A Messianic Passover observance is an awesome experience.
funny, my exposure to Jews has had a somewhat different conclusion. In my experience a great many, here and abroad, don't believe in a Messiah of any kind. Not even the unidemensional "Messianic Age" much less a living and breathing individual called the Messiah. Heck, most of them don't even believe in G-d.Technically so is "Messianic Judaism". I have a Jewish friend, and she hates the term as all Jews believe in a "messiah"... whether he has come yet or not. She always says the term is redundant.
Perhaps he was referencing observant Jews.funny, my exposure to Jews has had a somewhat different conclusion. In my experience a great many, here and abroad, don't believe in a Messiah of any kind. Not even the unidemensional "Messianic Age" much less a living and breathing individual called the Messiah. Heck, most of them don't even believe in G-d.
b'Shalom
Henaynei
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