Is it a hoax?

[DogmaHunter]

Sure. But history is completely fabricated in the mind of the story teller.
Any criminal attorney will explain that for you.

This is one of the reasons why 1 piece of objective evidence will instantly overrule a thousand testimonies saying otherwise.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You are correct. My mistake. It's called causality.

Causality (physics)
Nature of time and causality in Physics
Quantum causal relations: A causes B causes A - Phys.org

And you are still wrong. Causality does not say that an effect cannot be bigger than the cause either.

Once again your links do not help your case that an effect cannot be larger than the cause. It sounds like you may have been listening to an apologist. Perhaps William Lane Craig. Apologists are notoriously bad at physics.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I understand the desire to always wish one were correct.
But history shows that old fictions are replaced by new ones.
Which are later replaced by new stories.
It's an established fact.

Meanwhile, creationism isn't.

*ahum*

List of creation myths - Wikipedia
List of religions and spiritual traditions - Wikipedia


Indeed.... history shows us that old fictions are replaced by new ones.

When in a corner, attack the opposing viewpoint. I get that.

Lol, what attack!?
Did you read the thread subject line? Who's doing the "attacking" here?
Projecting much?

Unfortunately for your effort, I'm not arguing Creationism at this time.

Indeed. Just attacking science.

 

[SkyWriting]

And you are still wrong. Causality does not say that an effect cannot be bigger than the cause either.

Once again your links do not help your case that an effect cannot be larger than the cause. It sounds like you may have been listening to an apologist. Perhaps William Lane Craig. Apologists are notoriously bad at physics.

Nope. Just my physics teachers.

Another link for cause and effect , which may help your stand.
http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/v10/n4/full/nphys2930.html?foxtrotcallback=true

 

[SkyWriting]

This is one of the reasons why 1 piece of objective evidence will instantly overrule a thousand testimonies saying otherwise.

The opposite is true. Valid testimonies usually dismiss potential evidence.
For example, if a witness places the suspect not on the scene, any evidence
that they were there is dismissed. Even DNA evidence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nope. Just my physics teachers.

Another link for cause and effect , which may help your stand.
http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/v10/n4/full/nphys2930.html?foxtrotcallback=true

I doubt that, unless you are talking about just high school physics teachers. I remember being shocked when I talked with a guy that was going to school so that he could teach physics in high school. I asked him how his calculus was going and he surprised the heck out of me when he said that he did not need it.

You can't understand physics without calculus. At best you can merely remember formulas.

And once again, your link does not help your claim. What is the point of random links by you? Just finding a link does you no good if it has nothing to do with your claims.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The opposite is true. Valid testimonies usually dismiss potential evidence.
For example, if a witness places the suspect not on the scene, any evidence
that they were there is dismissed. Even DNA evidence.

Please, cite an example.

 

[AV1611VET]

Hello Vet... Id agree but i thought u were a supporter of creationism?

Howdy, Zoii.

Indeed I am.

But the creation week consisted of a series of one miracle after another, with no evidence being generated.

Evidence is a byproduct of an event.

A footprint here, a fingerprint there, something left behind or out of place.

God isn't sloppy.

 

[SkyWriting]

Creationism takes that stand that matter, systems, intelligence, and people are the result of cause and effect. The first cause of any solid matter, working systems, and ongoing intelligence must be equal to or larger than the end result. So creationists have evidence that what we see had a cause and an intelligent source based on the scientific basis of cause and effect.

And you are still wrong. Causality does not say that an effect cannot be bigger than the cause either. Once again your links do not help your case that an effect cannot be larger than the cause.

I will withdraw my comment on the relative size of the well documented standard of cause and effect, based on scripture:
12Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever believes in Me will also do the works that I am doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

 

[SkyWriting]

Please, cite an example.

I just did.
When a suspect has an alibi, it means that the suspect was somewhere else, doing something else, or was with someone else at the time the alleged crime was committed.

 

[bhsmte]

The opposite is true. Valid testimonies usually dismiss potential evidence.
For example, if a witness places the suspect not on the scene, any evidence
that they were there is dismissed. Even DNA evidence.

Wrong. You can have 20 witnesses claiming through personal testimony, someone was not at the scene. If the prosecution produces a video, demonstrating the person was there, those 20 witnesses get impeached. Video and physical evidence dont lie, people do.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I will withdraw my comment on the relative size of the well documented standard of cause and effect, based on scripture:
12Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever believes in Me will also do the works that I am doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

What are you talking about? You misunderstood the concept of cause and effect. And the scripture does not help your case either.

Try again.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I just did. If a suspect has an alibi, they are no longer suspects.

Nope, you made up a claim. You need an actual instance.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Howdy, Zoii.

Indeed I am.

But the creation week consisted of a series of one miracle after another, with no evidence being generated.

Evidence is a byproduct of an event.

A footprint here, a fingerprint there, something left behind or out of place.

God isn't sloppy.

Your version of God is very sloppy. But then, he has to be to have a literal interpretation of the Bible.

 

[SkyWriting]

Wrong. You can have 20 witnesses claiming through personal testimony, someone was not at the scene. If the prosecution produces a video, demonstrating the person was there, those 20 witnesses get impeached. Video and physical evidence dont lie, people do.

Video is generally not allowed in court.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Video is generally not allowed in court.

Where did you get that idea from?

 

[SkyWriting]

Wrong. You can have 20 witnesses claiming through personal testimony, someone was not at the scene. If the prosecution produces a video, demonstrating the person was there, those 20 witnesses get impeached. Video and physical evidence dont lie, people do.

Nope, you made up a claim. You need an actual instance.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Complexity is not empirical evidence for design. The hallmark of design is simplicity.

I've always had the suspicion that science thinks that organisms are waaaay too complex for God to have created. That's best left to a secular magic force.

 

[bhsmte]

Video is generally not allowed in court.

LOL

 

[AV1611VET]

Your version of God is very sloppy.

How would you know?