Is it a hoax?

[SkyWriting]

At any rate, the sum total of the evidence (fossil, genetic, biogeographic, etc) points to shared ancestry of life on Earth. There's really no debate about it.

Science cannot re-create events that have past.
But it can imagine that it can. Fiction always wins.
Even when they lose to new fictions, it's called a win.

 

[driewerf]

Science cannot re-create events that have past.

But it can and does investigate the past using present day traces of that past.

But it can imagine that it can. Fiction always wins.

Good hyptheses or theories win. Good hypotheses are the ones in accordance with known facts or data.

Even when they lose to new fictions, it's called a win.

Hypothesis.

Below is a 1 hour documentary about how the Polynesians moved the giant statues on Easter Island (the Moai). There were hypotheses about this. But a team of scientists proposed a new way of moving them.
According to you view scientist couldn't have been doing this: investigate the past. Yet they did.
It fits the known data better, so a new hypothesis -- fiction-- was proposed.

 

[lesliedellow]

Who do YECs think they are going to convince by singing the same tired old, wilfully ignorant, and fallacy ridden, song to themselves?

They are just whistling to keep their spirits up, and nobody else is interested.

 

[lesliedellow]

Science cannot re-create events that have past.
But it can imagine that it can. Fiction always wins.
Even when they lose to new fictions, it's called a win.

Then presumably a historian can't talk abot the American civil war, or, better yet, first century Palestine.

 

[lesliedellow]

How can I give a scientific explanation for something that involved supernatural creation?

Because only the creation was supernatural. Everything which happened after that, including evolution, was natural - although divinely intentioned.

The above does not preclude very rare instances of direct intervention by God - such as in the case of the Incarnation or Resurrection.

 

[Suicidegirl1988]

Still waiting for some atheist to tell me what evolved first DNA or Protein , i asked once my bio teacher and he was bullying me for rest of year .

 

[lesliedellow]

Still waiting for some atheist to tell me what evolved first DNA or Protein , i asked once my bio teacher and he was bullying me for rest of year .

I am not an atheist, but the answer is that there is currently no viable theory of abiogenesis. That has zero relevance to the truth of the Theory of Evolution.

 

[Suicidegirl1988]

I am not an atheist, but the answer is that there is currently no viable theory of abiogenesis. That has zero relevance to the truth of the Theory of Evolution.

So you say that you know rock evolved ( or even nothing exploded first to make this rock ) into human in billions of years but you can't tell me what was first DNA or Protein?

How then you know there was or was not something before that rock , if you can't even tell how did DNA created itself .

 

[lesliedellow]

So you say that you know rock evolved ( or even nothing exploded first to make this rock ) into human in billions of years but you can't tell me what was first DNA or Protein?

How then you know there was or was not something before that rock , if you can't even tell how did DNA created itself .

Straw man. However life got started, it would have involved chemicals available in the environment reacting with one another. Scientists can talk about what happened after life got going, because the evidence is there to enable them to do so.

 

[Suicidegirl1988]

Straw man. However life got started, it would have involved chemicals available in the environment reacting with one another. Scientists can talk about what happened after life got going, because the evidence is there to enable them to do so.

If you can provide me proof of creation DNA from nothing then do so please , other way don't bother to reply to me and keep believing what you believe .

 

[lesliedellow]

If you can provide me proof of creation DNA from nothing then do so please , other way don't bother to reply to me and keep believing what you believe .

I have already said that there is currently no viable theory of abiogenesis. How often do you want me to say it?

 

[Suicidegirl1988]

I have already said that there is currently no viable theory of abiogenesis. How often do you want me to say it?

So you put faith in it because there is no proof ? Sounds like religion rather than science.

 

[tevans9129]

"Unfortunately there is no evidence of numerous individual, independent organisms being created."

Exactly, in fact, there is no evidence for much of the claims made by those that believe all life came from a single cell, speculation, conjecture, belief does not equate to evidence.

 

[lesliedellow]

So you put faith in it because there is no proof ? Sounds like religion rather than science.

There is very strong evidence for evolution.

I have heard more than one Christian scientist say that it is possible that no natural explanation for the origin of life will ever be found, but that cannot simply be assumed up front - which is what YECs want to do.

 

[lesliedellow]

"Unfortunately there is no evidence of numerous individual, independent organisms being created."

Exactly, in fact, there is no evidence for much of the claims made by those that believe all life came from a single cell, speculation, conjecture, belief does not equate to evidence.

You can tell yourself that untruth as often as you like. That will not turn it into a truth.

 

[Suicidegirl1988]

There is very strong evidence for evolution.

I have heard more than one Christian scientist say that it is possible that no natural explanation for the origin of life will ever be found, but that cannot simply be assumed up front - which is what YECs want to do.

I want proof not babling , links to evidence or don't reply to me i alredy said it . I dont assume anything up front you assume that rock evolved into me ( or nothing into rock first ) .

 

[tevans9129]

I didn't ask for a scientific explanation; I asked for an explanation. What's the supernatural explanation for humans and chimpanzees looking genetically like they're descended from a common ancestor?

Because they have the same designer? Why does the human body have many of the same elements as the earth? Same designer perhaps?

 

[tevans9129]

The Bible states that because of the disobedience of those who stoutly refuse to believe that Jesus Christ is the divine Son of God and that He rose from the dead, and who irreversably refused to accept Christ as Saviour, God Himself will send on them a strong delusion so that they will be blocked from every knowing the truth of the Gospel. I believe that Evolution is one of those delusions. This is borne out by those who believe in it will fight tooth and nail to support it, even in the face of clear scientific facts that show that it is a complete fantasy. Evolution is a type of religion, rather than a credible science, and those who believe in it, rather than the Bible account of creation are deceived so as to show their separation from those who are genuine believers in Christ. If that is so, no reasonable of logical arguments will convince these people of anything that will show them that their belief in Evolution is an error. This is because the delusion comes from not an intellectual source but a spiritual one.

Absolutely agree. Satan mixed a little truth in with his lies to mislead Eve and he is still doing the same thing to mislead others for his purpose.

 

[sfs]

I personally don't have an explanation. I am unable to understand all the processes involved in special creation.

So you've got two models. One model involves a mechanism that we know happens, and it makes numerous detailed correct predictions about the data. The other invokes an unknown mechanism, and neither predicts nor explains the data. And you're saying that accepting the first model is absurd.

I gotta say, you're not making a compelling case here.

 

[lesliedellow]

I want proof not babling , links to evidence or don't reply to me i alredy said it . I dont assume anything up front you assume that rock evolved into me ( or nothing into rock first ) .

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Darwins-Gi...id=1503838344&sr=1-3&keywords=Francisco+ayala

It is not wonderfully expensive, but of course you won't read it, because, like all YECs, you are fearful that anything written by somebody who knows what he is talking about would force you to change your views.