Is Irving Feldkamp an SDA?

[JohnMarsten]

Now I have been checking Contented's links regarding abortion... and I am wondering about this Irving Feldkamp guy... is he an SDA? cause his two daughters who died in that plane apparently were... or at least had some ties to it...

could someone enlighten me?


As a matter of fact I am not linking the fact of it to the church as evil people are present in all churches, but still it would be nice to know...

And lets imagine this guy was/is an adventist... if he own abortion clinics, the sda should run him away...

I mean would the SDA allow me to worship with them if I owned like 17 brothels? I hope you get what I mean...

 

[JohnMarsten]

Adventists are Ambiguous About Abortions - Topix

according to this Feldkamp is an adventist

hope this is not another red herring...

 

[Contented]

An Open Letter to Ted Wilson, GC President - The Narrow Way ...

Family of Abortion Business Owner Irving Feldkamp Dies in ...

Your Tithe Dollars At Work

Why did someone like Feldkamp own abortion clinics?


Those who died

• His two daughters
• Five grandchildren
• His two sons in law
• Four friends

THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL. Wonder what the church told him about his business. (He is not an abortionist..BUT he PROFITS from the killing of children in his clinics) PERHAPS GIVES A HEFTY TITHE.

The book of Ezekiel chapter 34 God's condemnation of the pastors.

A member who is in good standing with the church receiving money from this wicked business and yet people are not to wear jewellry, drink coke or eat pork. The church is living in denial so are some members here. I wonder if the pastor knew of his business, but rich people are special in the eyes of some people. I do pray that the church will see sin and seek God's help.
The time is at hand....Watch and pray.

 

[Contented]

An Open Letter to Ted Wilson, GC President - The Narrow Way ...

Family of Abortion Business Owner Irving Feldkamp Dies in ...


Those who died

• His two daughters
• Five grandchildren
• His two sons in law
• Four friends

THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL. Wonder what the church told him about his business. (He is not an abortionist..BUT he PROFITS from the killing of children in his clinics) PERHAPS GIVES A HEFTY TITHE.

The book of Ezekiel chapter 34 God's condemnation of the pastors.

A member who is in good standing with the church receiving money from this wicked business and yet people are not to wear jewellry, drink coke or eat pork. The church is living in denial so are some members here. I wonder if the pastor knew of his business, but rich people are special in the eyes of some people. I do pray that the church will see sin and seek God's help.
The time is at hand....Watch and pray.

 

[JohnMarsten]

People like that Feldkamp guy are disgusting to say the least, brings back the idea of Nazi Germany... oh wait Feldkamp? sounds german to me... wonder if his ancestors were partakers in some massive killings already...

no seriously, I dont wanna judge this guy, or condemn him. but IMHO people should forbid him to enter the church until he has got rid of that shady business of his...

moreover SDA hospitals should ban abortion from their menu...

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

People like that Feldkamp guy are disgusting to say the least, brings back the idea of Nazi Germany... oh wait Feldkamp? sounds german to me... wonder if his ancestors were partakers in some massive killings already...

no seriously, I dont wanna judge this guy, or condemn him. but IMHO people should forbid him to enter the church until he has got rid of that shady business of his...

moreover SDA hospitals should ban abortion from their menu...

There are a myriad of things the leadership of our church has to repent of... abortion is just one of them.

 

[Stryder06]

There are a myriad of things the leadership of our church has to repent of... abortion is just one of them.

Pretty much...

 

[JohnMarsten]

There are a myriad of things the leadership of our church has to repent of... abortion is just one of them.

abortion is just one of them?

I dont know about you but infanticide seems like a major one!

 

[Kira Light]

I don't know how I missed the SDA position on abortion all these years. I think it would surprise a lot of Adventists.

I wonder, is there any circumstance under which abortion does not violate the 6th commandment?

 

[JohnMarsten]

I don't know how I missed the SDA position on abortion all these years. I think it would surprise a lot of Adventists.

I wonder, is there any circumstance under which abortion does not violate the 6th commandment?

Exactly!

You probably have realized that I was getting a little emotional lately... it came to me as a total surprise...

My mother still cannot fully believe it yet... she asked around and all of her SDA friends were shocked as well, and want to check into it as they cant believe it as well...

The whole matter is so disgusting...

I dont know for sure but maybe God is testing the people, He is wondering will anyone stand up? will anyone be fearless and open their mouth? will anyone fight against this blasphemy, child sacrifice, etc.

Abortions do happen, of course, on a secular level...

but as christians (and I think SDA claims to be christian as well) we cannot allow such a thing to happen, or at least in regard to the whole context, make it happen within our walls, or better, be partakers...!!! think about it!!!

dont fight against wine and pork, fight against the real deal!!!

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

abortion is just one of them?

I dont know about you but infanticide seems like a major one!

To God sin is sin... we are the ones that 'rank' our sins to justify the small ones that we do and to feel superior to those that do the 'major ones'.

 

[Contented]

To God sin is sin... we are the ones that 'rank' our sins to justify the small ones that we do and to feel superior to those that do the 'major ones'.

No one is ranking small sin to justify or feel superior the point is that the SDA church is in a mess spiritually. . The problem is that people do not think that the REMNANT church can sin. Our eyes are so much fixed on Sis. White we have to no time to see the filth within the system.

If someone came to burglar your house and took your possessions and left...but if he took your wife's life..would not that be a greater sin. We cannot compare sin with sin, it must be compared with righteousness and the problem is that many people cannot come to grips with the fact that there is wickedness within the church ALTHOUGH all of us are guilty of sin. Remember Eli two sons, THEY WERE PRIESTS but were sleeping with the women in the temple. God removed them. God is not in the entertainment business he sees sin as very grievous and we should too.

CORPORATE GREED IS AT THE HEART OF THE SDA CHURCH.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

. . The problem is that people do not think that the REMNANT church can sin. Our eyes are so much fixed on Sis. White we have to no time to see the filth within the system.

What do the teachings of Ellen White have to do with the apostacy in the church? And who is it that can't see the sin? I haven't heard anyone on here saying that the church is perfect and without sin...

If someone came to burglar your house and took your possessions and left...but if he took your wife's life..would not that be a greater sin.... God is not in the entertainment business he sees sin as very grievous and we should too.

Not sure what you were trying to say here as your comments seem contradictory but to your example of the thief stealing or killing... sin is sin.

CORPORATE GREED IS AT THE HEART OF THE SDA CHURCH.

And what is your point... Marsten is fixated on the abortion issue and you on the corruption. What is your statement accomplishing? As i said, I haven't seen anyone post on here that says the SDA church is not in apostacy. We even have testimony from the Bible and sister White that the end time church would be this way. Why so shocked? We only have one responsibility in this and that is to pray for the leadership.

 

[JohnMarsten]

To God sin is sin... we are the ones that 'rank' our sins to justify the small ones that we do and to feel superior to those that do the 'major ones'.

well, I disagree here...

it all depends how you look at it, ECR, and I dont feel like diving into this discussion, to insult a brother means to kill him, killing him proper however, weighs much more... dont you think?

are you implying that infanticide is the same as me having a beer?

 

[JohnMarsten]

What do the teachings of Ellen White have to do with the apostacy in the church? And who is it that can't see the sin? I haven't heard anyone on here saying that the church is perfect and without sin...



Not sure what you were trying to say here as your comments seem contradictory but to your example of the thief stealing or killing... sin is sin.



And what is your point... Marsten is fixated on the abortion issue and you on the corruption. What is your statement accomplishing? As i said, I haven't seen anyone post on here that says the SDA church is not in apostacy. We even have testimony from the Bible and sister White that the end time church would be this way. Why so shocked? We only have one responsibility in this and that is to pray for the leadership.

Pray for the leadership?

You must be kidding!

Why didnt John the baptist pray?

to put it in more sophisticated terms, because he got bxxxs

 

[JohnMarsten]

We only have one responsibility in this and that is to pray for the leadership.

or maybe just leave babylon

 

[JohnMarsten]

To God sin is sin... we are the ones that 'rank' our sins to justify the small ones that we do and to feel superior to those that do the 'major ones'.

yeah, sin is sin, so lets abide in sin...

lets continue to partake in the killing of millions of infants (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and at the same time preach grape juice theories in order to make people stop drinking wine....

hope you get the irony!

 

[Stryder06]

well, I disagree here...

it all depends how you look at it, ECR, and I dont feel like diving into this discussion, to insult a brother means to kill him, killing him proper however, weighs much more... dont you think?

are you implying that infanticide is the same as me having a beer?

I think what he's saying is that sin left unforgiven will keep you out of heaven. Do you think it will really matter in the long run if you're lost for having committed murder, or because you were a liar?

That's what it means to say "sin is sin".

 

[Stryder06]

Pray for the leadership?

You must be kidding!

Why didnt John the baptist pray?

to put it in more sophisticated terms, because he got bxxxs

Who says John the Baptist didn't pray? How do you know that?

 

[Stryder06]

or maybe just leave babylon

The SDA church isn't Babylon. As often as Israel slipped into apostasy, God never called His people out of it.