Is hating people wrong?

[HolyOne33]

Well, like I said, I just follow the Bible. Matthew 5:43 & 44
It says to love your enemies.

Kayla

 

[Disciple 3]

Hatred is not so bad when its directed at injustice.

All hatred is bad.

Lord have mercy on his soul

 

[HadouKen24]

Is hating people wrong?

It creates division and strife, sometimes externally, but always internally. It disunifies. It closes your mind to unbiased consideration. It promotes ignorance of the inherent dignity and divinity within others (whether you believe the divinity to be the image of God in everyone, or a spark of the primordial light, or what have you.).

It can be useful at times, when action is needed. It helps urge one to greater efforts at times. It can help one achieve things that otherwise would not be done.

That's as straightforward an answer as you're going to get from me.

 

[coyoteBR]

I asked this in another thread but it deserves more in depth discussion.


So many people of all different religions feel that to “hate” a person is wrong and even “evil”.

But I don’t see this, and my religion teaches that to feel “hate” towards a person is right and good. It teaches that “hate” is an important emotion, which if used correctly is an asset to ones life.

I agree that any emotion, used corectly, can be benefitial to a person. Emotions triggers actions. However, the problem is what action the emotion leads to. Yes, we're humans. Yes, we don't like some people, and sometimes we have all the right not to. But what to do with such feeling... how to act with this person is the challenge.

Let me start off by respond to common phrases I have heard on the subject:
“No good can come from hate”

That to me is wrong, take for example if another “Hitler” came to power, if I didn’t feel hate toward him I would do nothing to stop him, because I would have no drive to stop him. If I don’t use hate to tell me when I think someone is amiss, and then what do I use?

DaTsar, what do you mean "stop him"? I believe that, in such situation, we can warn the others about the dangers of such person, and try to help the person's victms. Nothing else. The person can be the evil incarnated, but two wrongs do not make a right.

For example let say:
“Hate the actions not the person”
I as a person involved in the political scene have seen many people who hate a leaders actions but not him. This put them to yes stop him, but they are unwilling to do all that is necessary to get rid of him. For example after using a “war measures act” to get reside of a leader becomes much more difficult, people would then for the most part just refuse to take part vs. do something to stop the source of these atrocities.

Yep, I've seen this happen a lot here, tooBut I don't know if this is "hate" or "political divergences"

Now let take another misconception (IMO) about hate:
“If you hate a person you will treat that personal unkindly”
Why? I treat people I hate with compassion, kindness, mercy…Those choice of action to me have nothing to do with a feeling of hate or love.

To deny oneself hate in my mind, or to repress the fact that it has a use in your life, is to let any touch of anger make you do “evil”. By understanding and accepting hate as part of your self it in my opinion that you can do more good in hate then drunkard of repress, unclear and trained raw emotion that cannot be under your own self control.

It is also in my opinion that this hate phobia is behind a lot of the problem with today’s society.

Comments? Options? teachings?

I see and I agree with you. It's a part of us that we can't deny it exists, but we can avoid it to take control. Pretty much like any other emotion. Even Love in excess can lead to fanatism, obsession, etc.

 

[Spaise]

I really don't think anyone here understands human emotion.

Any emotion that vibrates from within the human soul is a beautiful thing. It is what truly makes us different from any other living thing on this planet. To live beyond just actions, but to feel them.

Hate is as beautiful as love. The full power of hate is wonderful, especially when you have the chance to look back at the emotion and try to understand the need for it.

Myself, my hate has driven me through some of the most troublesome times but, i have never allowed any emotion to cloud my judgement, and intellect.

That is where people make their mistake, allowing their hate to destroy their own life or anothers.

All emotion if controlled can be of use.

I am also honest enough to say that i do not love everyone, but i can also say that i don't hate anyone either, that is just my personality.

 

[Tangnefedd]

Hate is as beautiful as love. The full power of hate is wonderful, especially when you have the chance to look back at the emotion and try to understand the need for it.

I find that statement extremely disturbing. Hate corrupts the soul and there is nothing beautiful about it. The hatred in this world has led the the most appalling crimes!

 

[Spaise]

Hate can only corrupt if you allow it too. As i said if you cannot control your emotions you are as weak as those who disregard theirs. I love every aspect of my humanity.

Love has led to some of the most appalling crimes ever exhibited here on Earth. Is that reason to disregard love as a disgusting emotion.

Hate, love, anguish, happiness, are all personal feelings, how you choose these feelings to be seen in society is what matters.

 

[Arthra]

Hate can only corrupt if you allow it too. As i said if you cannot control your emotions you are as weak as those who disregard theirs. I love every aspect of my humanity.

Love has led to some of the most appalling crimes ever exhibited here on Earth. Is that reason to disregard love as a disgusting emotion.

Hate, love, anguish, happiness, are all personal feelings, how you choose these feelings to be seen in society is what matters.

My view is that hatred takes too much energy and can eat away at your vitals...or stomach lining... I will sometimes say i dislike something or prefer something else, but hatred really makes for lack of objectivity and prejudice.

Hitler relied on scapegoating to stoke up peoples' hatred of the Jews, Gypsies, homosexulas and Communists... and look where that got him.

Onthe other hand love for your neighbor and respect for others is a key value of most religions so terrorists have the least respect for their own religion when they commit acts of violence on innocent people.

- Art

 

[Lucubratus]

I really don't think anyone here understands human emotion.

Any emotion that vibrates from within the human soul is a beautiful thing. It is what truly makes us different from any other living thing on this planet. To live beyond just actions, but to feel them.

I think that the things we have in our soul have a yin-yang type of energy to it. I'm not trying to sound like new age jargon or anything, just using what words I can to explain. I think the soul is a form of energy and since it's sort of "disconnected" from the divine it's subjected to positive and negative forces. Not going to say good or evil - merely positive and negative since like some have said; love can be distorted. So I disagree with you about "any emotion" being a beautiful thing all on its own because hate or even excess love leading to obsession can cause a sort of riplling effect in the energies. Positive and negative furies, sort of..lol. (I just remembered that from a movie called Big Trouble In Little China) So really, too much of any negative emotion is going to eat into the positive, regardless of what it is - and if it eats into the other and causes the soul to be out of balance, it transmits into physical effects like headaches or heart attacks, etc.
and that there isn't quite mysticism so much as science, too.
Sometimes hate is an immediate reaction to something brought upon by conditioning (like someone growing up to being prejudicial and hating someone) but even that flare of the negative can eat into the positive.


Hate is as beautiful as love. The full power of hate is wonderful, especially when you have the chance to look back at the emotion and try to understand the need for it.

I wouldn't call it beautiful if hate were some sort of tangible living organism and existed solely as hate. If I were to compare it to love untainted by anything - and hate untainted by anything; just both existing in a room somewhere, hate is going to try to annihilate love because IMO a negative force is drawn to the positive to try and subdue it. Umm...just use an analogy like fire and water, I guess. Or like a black hole. It doesn't hate but it's a kind of negative force and its sucking down everything else.

I think I understand what you mean though - part of hate is equated with fear and feelings of fear bring on a fight or flight reaction; it can sort of keep you strong when other emotions that you haven't quite built up yet (like love) helps you to survive a situation. Is that kind of what you mean?

Myself, my hate has driven me through some of the most troublesome times but, i have never allowed any emotion to cloud my judgement, and intellect.

Just posing a question - do you suppose that you could be mistaking hate as being the motivator behind getting you through troublesome times? Kudos that you were able to get through them in whatever means you could - but hate is usually driven by fear or an anger or a sense of injury. So let's just say if somebody hated me enough to cause those emotions in me, and then I hated back as a way of getting through it - I am creating more negative forces in my soul. A lot of people are unaware at how these things can eat at you on a spiritual or even psychic level and it will build up and it will manifest into the actual body in the form of some ailment.

I also think that loving somebody who did a wrong to you and sort of "letting it go" is a lot more difficult to manage than to just be content to hate them in their mind but not direct it out harmfully to anyone else. That is why I think hate is internally harmful.


That is where people make their mistake, allowing their hate to destroy their own life or anothers.

Well I concur. but I'd insert somebody really has to know themselves deep down to make sure that hatred is completely expunged from their soul and that's the tricky part.

All emotion if controlled can be of use.

Controlling it I think is different from confronting it, dealing with it and then letting it out. I don't mean like "scream, shout, let it out" but to let it out of your mind and out of your body in the internal sense. Which of course can be a good healthy roar but I think you know what I mean.

I am also honest enough to say that i do not love everyone, but i can also say that i don't hate anyone either, that is just my personality.

Curious. Do you have any other kind of motion towards people in general? And is it a positive or negative force?

 

[Spaise]

I think that the things we have in our soul have a yin-yang type of energy to it. I'm not trying to sound like new age jargon or anything, just using what words I can to explain. I think the soul is a form of energy and since it's sort of "disconnected" from the divine it's subjected to positive and negative forces. Not going to say good or evil - merely positive and negative since like some have said; love can be distorted. So I disagree with you about "any emotion" being a beautiful thing all on its own because hate or even excess love leading to obsession can cause a sort of riplling effect in the energies. Positive and negative furies, sort of..lol. (I just remembered that from a movie called Big Trouble In Little China) So really, too much of any negative emotion is going to eat into the positive, regardless of what it is - and if it eats into the other and causes the soul to be out of balance, it transmits into physical effects like headaches or heart attacks, etc.
and that there isn't quite mysticism so much as science, too.
Sometimes hate is an immediate reaction to something brought upon by conditioning (like someone growing up to being prejudicial and hating someone) but even that flare of the negative can eat into the positive.


Hate is as beautiful as love. The full power of hate is wonderful, especially when you have the chance to look back at the emotion and try to understand the need for it.

I wouldn't call it beautiful if hate were some sort of tangible living organism and existed solely as hate. If I were to compare it to love untainted by anything - and hate untainted by anything; just both existing in a room somewhere, hate is going to try to annihilate love because IMO a negative force is drawn to the positive to try and subdue it. Umm...just use an analogy like fire and water, I guess. Or like a black hole. It doesn't hate but it's a kind of negative force and its sucking down everything else.

I think I understand what you mean though - part of hate is equated with fear and feelings of fear bring on a fight or flight reaction; it can sort of keep you strong when other emotions that you haven't quite built up yet (like love) helps you to survive a situation. Is that kind of what you mean?

Myself, my hate has driven me through some of the most troublesome times but, i have never allowed any emotion to cloud my judgement, and intellect.

Just posing a question - do you suppose that you could be mistaking hate as being the motivator behind getting you through troublesome times? Kudos that you were able to get through them in whatever means you could - but hate is usually driven by fear or an anger or a sense of injury. So let's just say if somebody hated me enough to cause those emotions in me, and then I hated back as a way of getting through it - I am creating more negative forces in my soul. A lot of people are unaware at how these things can eat at you on a spiritual or even psychic level and it will build up and it will manifest into the actual body in the form of some ailment.

I also think that loving somebody who did a wrong to you and sort of "letting it go" is a lot more difficult to manage than to just be content to hate them in their mind but not direct it out harmfully to anyone else. That is why I think hate is internally harmful.


That is where people make their mistake, allowing their hate to destroy their own life or anothers.

Well I concur. but I'd insert somebody really has to know themselves deep down to make sure that hatred is completely expunged from their soul and that's the tricky part.

All emotion if controlled can be of use.

Controlling it I think is different from confronting it, dealing with it and then letting it out. I don't mean like "scream, shout, let it out" but to let it out of your mind and out of your body in the internal sense. Which of course can be a good healthy roar but I think you know what I mean.

I am also honest enough to say that i do not love everyone, but i can also say that i don't hate anyone either, that is just my personality.

Curious. Do you have any other kind of motion towards people in general? And is it a positive or negative force?

I don't worry about whether my emotions are positive or negative. That does not matter.

You speak of hate which can drive humans to commit unspeakable acts, and i counter with the fact that love can drive humans to do just as unspeakable acts.

An emotion is just that an emotion, intangible. When you allow your emotions to lead to negative actions, that is when society should become worried.

People are unwilling to look at acts and blame it on a persons incapableness of dealing with life in a logical, intelligent manner. Humans have to find something intangible to place the blame inorder to hide the true problem that men are mentally weak and can't contain their emotions.

I hate injustice, hate insanity, hate disease, hate senseless killings, hate racism, hate rape, hate the destruction of our planet, hate the people who are to stubborn to further their intelligence or continue to learn. I hate and i don't care whether people feel that i should just say i "dislike" something, i would be lying i do hate and i can't betray myself inorder to be in line with popular belief that hate is wrong.

Hate allows you to focus more on what you love, to appreciate that there are other emotions such as love, to understand that life is nothing without challenge, and it gives you the strength to fight against what you hate.

 

[HomeBound]

It can be useful at times, when action is needed. It helps urge one to greater efforts at times. It can help one achieve things that otherwise would not be done.

That's as straightforward an answer as you're going to get from me.

I have to dissagree. Times of hatred are the worst times to act on something. It removes clarity, and clouds the senses. The prisons are full of people who acted at times of hate, instead of thinking of consequences.

I think you're confusing hate with steroids.

 

[Lucubratus]

I hate and i don't care whether people feel that i should just say i "dislike" something, i would be lying i do hate and i can't betray myself inorder to be in line with popular belief that hate is wrong.

I also think using the word dislike to describe a situation kind of tempers the feelings a word would inspire - If I sounded like I was telling you go in line with popular belief, I apologize as that certaintly was NOT my intent. (I don't go along with popular belief and never did fit into status quo - I tend to despise it - "My Bad" if my words came out that way.

An emotion is just that an emotion, intangible. When you allow your emotions to lead to negative actions, that is when society should become worried.

Well we disagree there, as I think that something which can cause your heart rate to skyrocket or your endorphins to fly off the handle for any emotion that is really very strong is going to affect the body is tangible. Just because we cannot see it with the nekkie or a microscope doesnt' mean its not there. (and there are visible patterns in brain scans, etc - but I will leave that one alone because that's a lot of science I'd have to go and look up to bring on here and I don't feel like doing that)

You speak of hate which can drive humans to commit unspeakable acts, and i counter with the fact that love can drive humans to do just as unspeakable acts.

Somewhere you misread me, in my first paragraph of babble I did say that love can become unhealthy. I just believe that hate is a negative force and love is a positive force when it comes down to the bare bones of it.


People are unwilling to look at acts and blame it on a persons incapableness of dealing with life in a logical, intelligent manner. Humans have to find something intangible to place the blame inorder to hide the true problem that men are mentally weak and can't contain their emotions.

Well I agree a lot of people can't deal in a logical, intelligent manner but when they take something lke hate or love to the extreme then they're not really thinking logically. There is of course, more science that can prove that -- endorphins and hormones etc, which to some degree I view as a cop-out because if the person was aware enough about themselves to feel the intangible fact that they're hormones were raging to the point of being out of control - then perhaps they'd have a better understanding and oppurtunity not to act out on what they may think is an impulse.
When you say men are mentally weak - is that men period or mankind? There are some very strong men but these kinds of posts don't utilize the exceptions to what is in line with popular belief. It sucks to generalize sometimes.


Hate allows you to focus more on what you love, to appreciate that there are other emotions such as love, to understand that life is nothing without challenge, and it gives you the strength to fight against what you hate.

Hey if that works for you, that's dandy.

Here's mine: Love gives you the strength to face ANY challenge and already feels the appreciation of all things, and of things that are not good for you (as in you, yourself and you yourself knows what is good or bad for you)- Love gives you the strength to endure it and see it through.

As I think like this, I don't have to remind myself to stop and smell the roses or gawk at the nighttime sky - my eyes automatically go to it at every oppurtunity. That's just an example of how I think Love allows you to do - that's not a personal attack at you or anything.

Pax

 

[Spaise]

When you say men are mentally weak - is that men period or mankind?

Mankind.

I don't think i was speaking directly to you though i appreciate your comments.

All emotions, are something of power, your brain is the filter, use it.

 

[Captain Buky]

If our emotions are coming from ourselves, they are often not good and can be destructive. If our emotions come from God, they are good emotions. Hate is not wrong, for there are things that God hates (that is Satan and everything that came with him, like sin and stuff), but he loves everyone. If our hate comes from God, we are hating the right way, and we are hating the right things. If our love comes from God, it is the right and best love. We love the right things. I will take back that hate is completely wrong, but we must hate what God hates and love what God loves.

 

[Spaise]

This is a very important question.

What would life be like without evil?

It would be nothing.

That's why theres no heaven or hell. Both need eachother to survive. You can't appreciate life if there was no death, you can't appreciate love if you didn't hate anything, you can't be happy if you've never know sadness.

You need each emotion that we have been blessed to experience.

Can anyone imagine life with no emotion? I can and i know it would be far worse than hell not to feel.

Emotions are what make us human, i love HATE.

 

[HolyOne33]

Well, I hate hate! I don't even like to use the word!! But, that is true about emotions, without them we would be nothing!!

Kayla

 

[Spaise]

Then why all the fuss over an emotion that with control does not have to be acted irrationally upon.

 

[HolyOne33]

Because you are not supposed to hate anybody! Matthew 5:44 "Love your enemies..."!!!! It is wrong to hate! The Bible teaches us to love!!!!!!

Kayla

 

[Spaise]

I know what shouldn't be loved and what deserves to be hated. It's all a matter of opinion. I could care less if anyone hates me or hates anything i stand for.

Besides i love catching scowls upon entering a room.

Love is such a wonderful thing, that loving everyone would take away the exclusiveness in it.

 

[Dyrwen]

Just commenting on something to say I agree completely with the first post. This line in particular made good sense to me.

"The only time it seems when these extreme feelings such as love and hate become problem some is when you become drunken with them. Everyone knows the best way to avoided becoming a drunker is a thing called balance and responsible use. This is the same way I look at hate and love."

It was a very wise statement. To be the mediator of emotions with balance is something all must learn to bear so as not to hate their own feelings or restrict them. Embrance all your emotions because they will come out one way or another. Some seem to fear hate a great deal but I've held nothing but respect for those who can hate completely and love too.