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Is google good for finding things out?

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personally I think yes and no. Well its already been proven they have changed search results for some things. I try to use others also. Seems on some search engines I get way different results. And some LINKS are not there.. seems odd at times.

Bible.. now there are great apps for free. Again I would use google and others
 
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Duckduckgo is a good choice. It is my default search engine, so if I decide to try a search on google, I type !g <search words>. I sometimes use !w for wikipedia, although I normally read wiki only when a search shows it as a top hit and I don't see a better one. I do find wiki usually gives me multiple viewpoints on controversial subjects if I'm willing to look at the talk page also, especially if the article has a warning notice.

Of course there is no such thing as a "Christian friendly" search engine, and there probably shouldn't be one. There are plenty of Christian sites, though, which I select from search when I trust the site and the context looks "right" for my purpose.
 
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personally I think yes and no. Well its already been proven they have changed search results for some things. I try to use others also. Seems on some search engines I get way different results. And some LINKS are not there.. seems odd at times.

Bible.. now there are great apps for free. Again I would use google and others

What are the others? Does dog pile still exist?
 
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Google has problems and I would advise ditching it as much as possible, and not just their search. They track you on the web and never forget anything about you. They also track what links you click on in search and even within gmail. They are very biased with anything remotely connected to political correctness. They enshroud you in a search bubble, so that you will miss a lot of hits they don't think you want.

Yahoo is owned by Verizon, which IMO has a bad privacy policy.

A top alternative is duckduckgo.com. I used it for a couple of years and I think it's getting better. Good results, unbiased results, no search bubble, good privacy, nice user interface options.

But now I'm using Qwant.com, and like it better. All the qualities of ddg are there as well.

It's easy to make any of these the default search engine in your browser.
 
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Throughout my life I've used google for mostly everything, from school to work, to buying things and researching, to even finding Bible studies.

I don't know any alternative.
Are you asking about Google as compared to other search engines, or about the Internet as compared to non-electronic sources like books and journals?
 
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Google has problems and I would advise ditching it as much as possible, and not just their search. They track you on the web and never forget anything about you. They also track what links you click on in search and even within gmail. They are very biased with anything remotely connected to political correctness. They enshroud you in a search bubble, so that you will miss a lot of hits they don't think you want.

Yahoo is owned by Verizon, which IMO has a bad privacy policy.

A top alternative is duckduckgo.com. I used it for a couple of years and I think it's getting better. Good results, unbiased results, no search bubble, good privacy, nice user interface options.

But now I'm using Qwant.com, and like it better. All the qualities of ddg are there as well.

It's easy to make any of these the default search engine in your browser.


I think I remember watching a informational video of Google search results being different per user.

But yes, I find advertisements showing up that corresponding to something I recently searched.
 
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Are you asking about Google as compared to other search engines, or about the Internet as compared to non-electronic sources like books and journals?

Not necessarily search engines, but to find things out or even researching a topic.
 
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Not necessarily search engines, but to find things out or even researching a topic.

In that case, here's my advice:

1) The important principle, whether you're dealing with an electronic or printed source, is how likely is this information to be correct. Sources of information may be:
- written by one person who has no particular expertise, working on their own
- written by a person who is an expert in their field or who has direct knowledge of something they've witnessed or created, working on their own
- written by a person whose work is reviewed by an editor
- written by a person whose work is reviewed by multiple expert reviewers in a double-blind review process

The information tends to get more reliable as you move further down this list.

2) As you probably know, the Internet is a scrambled mix of expertise and rubbish. A Google search is a good starting point for finding something out, especially if it's a non-controversial fact you're looking up (What is the capital of Nevada?), but it's important to look at the level of expertise and editorial review in the sites you find.

3) Books, physical books, are a good way to learn about something if you want to know a subject in depth. A 200-page book has more space to explain its ideas thoroughly than a 2-screen-long blog post. Books have also usually gone through some kind of review process, where at least an editor, and maybe also expert reviewers, have looked at the text and corrected some of the errors.

4) So, if you just need to find out a quick fact, or even a quick explanation of a non-controversial idea, Google's great. If you want to understand something more deeply, like how to interpret the Bible, then I suggest using Google as a starting point but not an ending point. Google your topic or question, and then look at the published sources they cite, and then pick out a couple of those books and read the books. (Amazon can be a quick way of looking at a book to decide whether it's interesting or useful to read.) If you have an area that you want to study in depth, you can Google a phrase like "Reformed commentaries on the book of Romans" (or whatever your interest is), or enter a phrase like that at Amazon, and that will often turn up useful books.

Tl;dr: Start with Google, but don't stop with Google. Books are still a great invention, generally having more accuracy and completeness than web sites. Read the Kindle versions if you prefer an electronic interface.
 
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Throughout my life I've used google for mostly everything, from school to work, to buying things and researching, to even finding Bible studies.

I don't know any alternative.

Although Google is the biggest, there are a dozen or more other ones. You can find out about them all by doing a simple search for alternative search engines or search engines listed or something like that.

My own comparison shows that there are significant differences between these search engines (Google included), so that a prudent person would find several different ones and use them whenever the issue is a controversial one. Then you are better armed to reach a conclusion.

One word of caution..."DuckDuckGo" is the second largest of the search engines, is easy to use, and is well-regarded. But when you drop down to some of the smaller ones, you will find that they either just reproduce what Google offers or that they are hard to use or that they have even more of a bias than Google. So you will have to know what you want in an alternate search engine. All of this is analyzed for you on some sites that explain the strengths and weaknesses of the various ones.
 
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