Is evolution a fact or theory?

GenemZ · Aug 8, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Yahweh's Word says NOT to consider nor discuss such evil ways of thinking .

Evolution is bad enough to avoid .....

It does not.... You're avoiding a challenge where you are weak and not called to enter into. That's all.

We are not to avoid!

"We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against
the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it
obedient to Christ." 2 Cor 10:5

That's what we are supposed to do ...as long as we remain within the areas we have been qualified to do so. But, we are never commanded to avoid. You are confusing what we are supposed to avoid concerning tiring and foolish religious debates over genealogies, and the law etc. Today we do not have that custom.

This what we are to avoid.

But avoid foolish disputes, genealogies, contentions, and strivings
about the law; for they are unprofitable and useless" Titu 3:9

Back out if you can't handle it. Please let those who can stop being distracted by your fears that come from your inability to cope with the debate. You should be quiet, and try to listen and learn from those God assigned to argue over such matters without you becoming a distraction.

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 8, 2018

GenemZ · Aug 8, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Ephesians 4:29 KJV - Let no corrupt communication proceed - Bible ...
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4:29&version...
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

That had to with false teachers.

You are being nothing but a distraction. You end up working for the other side by protecting them. Be quiet and learn something. The Devil fears being caught in his illogical thinking. You are protecting his side at this time. Back off please. Let those who know how to fight do so without you hindering them.

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 8, 2018

GenemZ · Aug 8, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Deception - as written: "The whole world is deceived" / under the power of the god of this world.....
NOT good. NOT righteous. NOT helpful.

You are nothing but a distraction again to someone who has something to say.

I know you will not listen. So, I might as well define what your function is here for others to learn from.

We are to fight the good fight of faith. You want no fighting. Go hide someplace, please, if you can't handle it.

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 8, 2018

GenemZ · Aug 8, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Ephesians 4:29 KJV - Let no corrupt communication proceed - Bible ...
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4:29&version...
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

This not church. This an open debate forum. Now go find some nice church and feel holy there if you can't stand the heat of battle. This not a church!

"We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against
the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it
obedient to Christ." 2 Cor 10:5

Now..go away and find some thread you will not keep destroying the momentum for believers who have something to say. You end up acting like a spiritual double agent. You help the other side.

GenemZ · Aug 8, 2018

Now.

Dear evolutionists...

Amazing thing to consider,,,,

When did the first male phallus appear as a mutation? And, how long was it before a female vagina appeared from a mutation?

How did mass, matter, and energy know?

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 8, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 8, 2018

GenemZ · Aug 9, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
I serve Jesus.
He is the side I choose to serve.
The other side, as you now admit, is you/ thus your posts in error.
Choose TODAY who you will serve.
The more you post, the further from truth your ideas are is demonstrated, thank you !

Sir... only you know Christ?

GenemZ · Aug 9, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
More evil (or just vulgar, foul, in error? communication....
Remember Scripture says ("not" dear evolutionists)

and

Ephesians 4:29 KJV - Let no corrupt communication proceed - Bible ...
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+4:29&version...
Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.

That is not corrupt communication. Its not vulgar. You would not be here unless they existed.

God created those things. Are you saying that they are corrupt?

This discussion is for adults.

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 9, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 9, 2018

GenemZ · Aug 9, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Choosing to believe the creation is more important than the Creator and denying the Word of the Creator is called idolatry (corruption) in Scripture.
Stop doing that.
Instead, turn to and trust the Creator that His Word is Truth - He created all things as He says in His Word.

Adults of the world love your approach - the world loves its own - under the god of this world.

OK folks,.... there you have it. The reason to want to become a Christian. You can't talk about real life when you become one. Even though the Bible does speak of these things without blushing.

Here's one that God the Holy Spirit had no problem putting in God's Word. yeshuaslavejeff, would call the Holy Spirit "worldly."

18 Let your fountain be blessed,
And rejoice with the wife of your youth.
19 As a loving deer and a graceful doe,
Let her breasts satisfy you at all times;
And always be enraptured with her love."

That's vulgar, yeshuaslavejeff? ITS GOD'S WORD! Proverbs 5:18-19!

The Barbarian · Aug 9, 2018

Well, this has been entertaining...

yeshuaslavejeff · Aug 9, 2018

The Barbarian · Aug 9, 2018

The first functional example I know about is the bacterial pilus. That was derived from structural proteins within the cell. The pilus allows conjugation of bacteria, and sharing of DNA, the most primitive form of sex. Many bacteria can conjugate with bacteria of other species.

So there is that.

dcalling · Aug 10, 2018

The Barbarian said:
Not surprising that in a few million years, there would be transposed elements, and mutations. The remarkable thing is how close to identical they are, in spite of those mutations that occurred over that time.

As you know, fusions are known from a variety of vertebrates. We see it cattle, where it causes notable changes in phenotype.

HOW CHROMOSOMAL CHANGES CAN SURVIVE and LEAD TO NEW SPECIES
Some may raise the objection that if the fusion was a naturalistic event, how could the first human ancestor with the fusion have successfully reproduced? We have all heard that the horse and the donkey produce an infertile mule in crossing because of a different number of chromosomes in the two species. Well, apparently there is more to the story than we are usually told, because variations in chromosome number are known to occur in many different animal species, and although they sometimes seem to lead to reduced fertility, this is often not the case. Refs 5, 6, and 7 document both the existence of such chromosomal number differences and the fact that differences do not always result in reduced fertility. I can provide many more similar references if required. The last remaining species of wild horse, Przewalski's (sha-val-skis) Wild Horse has 66 chromosomes while the domesticated horse has 64 chromosomes. Despite this difference in chromosome number, Przewalski's Wild Horse and the domesticated horse can be crossed and do produce fertile offspring (see reference 9 below).

5. Chromosomal heterozygosity and fertility in house mice (Mus musculus domesticus) from
Northern Italy. Hauffe HC, Searle JB. Department of Zoology, University of Oxford, Oxford OX1 3PS, United Kingdom
(more examples at the site)
http://www.indiana.edu/~ensiweb/chrom.surviv.html

OK. Let's use your first statement about horse and dunkey as an example. That does not prove human genes can survive the same. The issue with taking evolution (specifically that humans are evolved from some primates) as fact is that most of it is just speculation, we are claiming just because one piece of code can do something, the other piece of code can do it too (after all, DNA are large pieces of very complex code) without fully understand it (how God wrote it).

GenemZ · Aug 10, 2018

A million subjective speculative possibilities become nullified once someone faces the realty that Nothing is nothing. Nothingness can not produce anything. Let alone the mega genius design found in DNA.

Its takes someone who has a half sided IQ to think it could have. Intelligent enough to see how intricate and involved in function it is... And, stubbornly flipping a switch to turn off all reasoning when the sound of goose steps are heard in the distance from alleged peers who will evaluate anyone negatively if he should not line up with their intellectual tyranny.

To be honest in the face of the undeniable facts would land you in a place of ridicule from those who play the game (for their advantage) of making believe something is so, so that they can gain the ascendancy in their sense of entitlement, to be seen as the superior being amongst men.

Evolution could not exist unless Nothing produced something real to be examined. Let us all get on our knees and show abeyance to the Mighty Nothingness!

Its stupid! Its actually idiotic to accept in the light of the impossibility that DNA formed from matter by random chance and time. For nothing could have lived long enough to evolve being able to survive!

For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal
power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood
from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave
thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts
were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools."

Same old story being replayed in our time.

They in their conceit want others think they are misunderstood and too wise for others. They desire to establish themselves as being better than everyone else. Yet, they refuse to understand that talent is not the same as virtue. Talent uses whatever is available to mark their claim to establishing their security amongst mere men. Virtue depends solely upon God and truth to judge their thinking. Knowing what man thinks is destined for the garbage heap. Ever walk through a garbage dump? You can see lots of found memories in what lays there, awaiting to decompose, or be burned.

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