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I argue that dogs are not life. They were created by god just to serve their masters.
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I argue that dogs are not life. They were created by god just to serve their masters.
I heard somewhere that dogs are the only animal that will maintain eye contact with a human. They'll stare at you looking like they're desperately trying to de-code your language when you talk to them.
A joke:
One day a pet dog is pondering its life with humans: "These beings I live amongst love me! They feed me, bathe me, entertain me, take care of my every need. They must be gods!"
One day a pet cat is pondering its life with humans: "These beings I live amongst love me! They feed me, bathe me, entertain me, take care of my every need. I must be a god!"
I am sure many have seen the youtube video of the German Shepherd from Alaska who took off running when her masters house caught on fire in the middle of the night. The owner had called the fire and police, but they got lost because it was a remote location and their GPS was frozen. The dog ran over a mile and a state trooper noticed the dog and the dog stopped and waited for the trooper and took off running back toward the house. The trooper followed on a hunch and the dog took him back to the house.
What makes dog unique in a behavior described as "loyalty"? What makes a dog "loyal" to its master?
What makes dog unique in a behavior described as "loyalty"? What makes a dog "loyal" to its master?
I notice you avoided cats in general.
I've never owned a dog my whole life, we've had lots of cats though. They're loyal.
As I said earlier dogs are pack animals and it is this quality that enables the behaviour to be modified for use with human 'packs'.
OK, cats may be included. But I will focus on dog. it is the same problem.
Most likely, nobody chose anything and the ancestral wolf (and cats) and ancient humans just grew towards eachother in some type of convergent evolution, due to win-win relationships.
When humans started using agriculture and building settlements, they started to gather thrash as well (remains of food etc). The ancestral wolves and cats would have been drawn to this. Why go through the trouble of hunting if you can just get some food for free?
In the other direction, this was helpfull for humans as well, as the ancestral wolves are pretty territorial. They would chase other animals away and / or warn the humans of approaching danger by barking etc.
Cats would have been usefull to keep the houses, stockpiles and fields free from mouses, rats, rabbits, etc.
It's not hard to see how humans would have found this usefull. To the point that they would start giving them actual food and not just left overs. And so the symbiotic relationship began.
If you think it through, it's not hard to understand.
You seem to have a tendency to ask a question, look at a superficial answer and then stop thinking about it.
For once, try to go the extra mile.
At this point though, I'ld like to remind you of a few other things that, imo, are more remarkable (yet, still naturally explainable):
- horses for transport
- oxes for transport and farming
- cows for milk and food
- pigeons as a post office
- falcons (and several other birds) for hunting
Cats and dogs, to me, seem a rather obvious convergent evolution. Both have something to gain by co-existing. It's also worthy to note that with cats and dogs, we have a special kind of relationship as opposed to with pigeons, cows, horses, etc...
Cats and dogs are almost seen as family members, as friends, as compagnons. Which is an expected relationship if it grew out of a win-win origin as outlined above.
Whereas the other examples (pigeons, oxes, cows, etc) are seen more as "utilities" then anything else.
I have had many dogs and one cat over the years and I would agree, cats are loyal too, they just possess different behavioral traits.
That cat I had would actually come when you called it, which isn't typical. I have always been partial to dogs though, because they just seem to connect better and the one's I have had, certainly appear to have an ability to read your moods and even offer a form of support when you are down in the dumps.
There are many pack animals. Why is dog chosen and why is it possible? (Why not the wolf?)
If what you people said are right, then why don't we live with other animals (like wolf, or tiger, or fox) as we live with dog?
There has to be something special. What is that?
Why human chose dog at the first place?
Dogs ARE wolves. Wolves were initially domesticated and selective breeding has resulted in modern dogs.
Typically love and food. That behavior and bond isn't limited to dogs (and/or humans) however. It's found in lots of species.
The Story Of A Guy And His Pet Buffalo : The Two-Way : NPR
Massive buffalo is world's largest pet - YouTube
I argue that dogs are not life. They were created by god just to serve their masters.
Tigers and foxes aren't pack animals, they wouldn't have the basic instincts of following orders. Basically, they would have been harder to domesticate. Dogs are essentially domesticated wolves.