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That's not the scenario I put forth, and flightless birds were not introduced into the conversation until after I had responded; a tactic that told me the question was baited.
Once again, perhaps you can tell me where it* fails?
* My scenario.
That's fine if it doesn't.Well there you have it -- your scenario doesn't reflect reality.
That's fine if it doesn't.
The trick is telling me where it fails, isn't it?
Feel free to do so.
So if we had a canyon with five beast-footed dinosaurs and five eagles fill up with water, killing and fossilizing all ten; you would expect to find the eagles underneath the beast-footed dinosaurs in the fossil record?your... scenario... doesn't... match... what... we... find... in... the... fossil... record.
So if we had a canyon with five beast-footed dinosaurs and five eagles fill up with water, killing and fossilizing all ten; you would expect to find the eagles underneath the beast-footed dinosaurs in the fossil record?
Is that what you want me to believe?
Why would the flood kill the eagles? Wouldn't they just fly out of the canyon?
Also, it sort of depends on the dinosaur. They were quite capable of swimming.
Just "no" would have sufficed.You haven't been following our conversation, have you?
No, it's you not thinking the story through, a good liar must have a good memory, creationists usually don't so they use BS to get out of conversations, creationists because of their beliefs are forced to start out wrong, they then try and put things right by making things up and getting themselves confused, then comes the BS.
The reason creationists never correct other creationists is because none of them know what they are supposed to believe, if it sounds crazy enough they will either nod and go along or say nothing.
Garbage in garbage out.
Would you take 'no' for an answer?
My friend, I'll run rings around you in the thinking category.That's it, talk about anything just as long as you are not made to think about what it is you believe.
I go out of my way to avoid saying people do that ... including myself.I have heard it takes special training to make yourself believe blatant lies, is that true?
I can actually do both, because I both know the dots (basic doctrine) and can connect them (with suppositions).You say that then tell me you are a literal Bible believer, one statement contradicts the other.
And who makes your choices for you?You believe you have made your own choices because that's what you were trained to believe.
As it should.Creationism flies in the face of reality...
What do you want me to do? pine away in cognitive dissonance?... and you are OK with that because of how you were raised.
Yes, I know.I honestly hope that you die as a creationist because if you ever realize before then what's was done to you it will destroy you,
I sure do. Is something wrong with that?do you not see the children in your church being indoctrinated?
When it comes to creationism, even the Muslims believe in the first 5 words of the Bible.of course you don't, you see them being told the truth, just as the Muslim young are told the truth.
I suspected you a couple of posts ago.Are you telling me you did not know it was me until this post?
E=MC[sup]3[/sup], does it?So I am a minority on this planet, I would rather be like that than believe something just because everyone else believed it.
Sorry ... you can't pin atheism on me.AV you are a fool to yourself and deep down you know it.
You are forgetting that although these eagles died in a canyon; we can still discern the strata they died in to the higher placed much older strata that the dino fossils are embedded in. There are many methods that are used to date these strata.So if we had a canyon with five beast-footed dinosaurs and five eagles fill up with water, killing and fossilizing all ten; you would expect to find the eagles underneath the beast-footed dinosaurs in the fossil record?
Is that what you want me to believe?
So you date the fossils according to the strata they're found in ... right?You are forgetting that although these eagles died in a canyon; we can still discern the strata they died in to the higher placed much older strata that the dino fossils are embedded in.
And one is: you date the strata according to the fossils found in them ... right?There are many methods that are used to date these strata.
Because the dinosaurs didn't eat them, or because they flew on a higher plane than these theropods?Also another thing you seem to miss is that you will not find eagle fossils within dinosaur fossils.
It would be like finding a Pharaoh at the bottom of the Red Sea, wouldn't it?If such a thing were to be discovered then it would shock the foundations of ToE.
Yes.So you date the fossils according to the strata they're found in ... right?
No. The same type of fossils may be found in different strata, so it is the strata that is dated first.And one is: you date the strata according to the fossils found in them ... right?
Sorry I meant "within the same strata as the dino fossils".Because the dinosaurs didn't eat them, or because they flew on a higher plane than these theropods?
If the remains of a human were to be found on the bottom of the Red sea then the scientific method would be:It would be like finding a Pharaoh at the bottom of the Red Sea, wouldn't it?
No, they didn't get it from their parents. Nylon didn't even exist before then, so they couldn't have had the ability to digest it
Also, where did these Italian Wall Lizards get their cecal valves?<<
From their parents probably fom a mutation. How do y ou explain how they got them?
Italian wall lizard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
When the lizards came to the island, they didn't have cecal valves. Now they do. Where did that come from? Their parents didn't have them.
How do you know they didn't have them. Have you not heard of recessive genes. Again, it doesn't matter, they are still bacteria. Evidentrly the ones with and the ones without the valve could mate. If so they are the exact same species.
Are all bacteria one kind?
Of course not.
They reproduce asexually, so how does that work?All that reporduce asexually are a different species, but they always produce "after their kind."
.Wouldn't ever bacteria be a kind unto itself, then?
I think you are starting to catch on.
Why are you acting like bacteria are one kind?
I'm not. BTW you had a typo. "Ever" should have been "every." I am also trying to get on with the typo police.
Which has happened. For instance, these sheep were breed to the point where they can no longer interbreed with other sheep. They can't bring forth with other sheep anymore, so by your definition, they're a new kind.
Molecular analysis of wild and domestic sheep ... [Proc Biol Sci. 2002] - PubMed - NCBI
No. You need to know why they can't interbreed. Too much interbreeding can cause the inability to breed even with their own kind.
No, it's you not thinking the story through, a good liar must have a good memory, creationists usually don't so they use BS to get out of conversations, creationists because of their beliefs are forced to start out wrong, they then try and put things right by making things up and getting themselves confused, then comes the BS.
The reason creationists never correct other creationists is because none of them know what they are supposed to believe, if it sounds crazy enough they will either nod and go along or say nothing.
Garbage in garbage out.
You say that then tell me you are a literal Bible believer, one statement contradicts the other.
You believe you have made your own choices because that's what you were trained to believe.
Creationism flies in the face of reality and you are OK with that because of how you were raised.
I honestly hope that you die as a creationist because if you ever realize before then what's was done to you it will destroy you, do you not see the children in your church being indoctrinated?
of course you don't, you see them being told the truth, just as the Muslim young are told the truth.
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