Is celebrating xmas a sin??

[yeshuaslavejeff]

You cow ... Next time save me a piece ...

hee hee hee...... XTRA LARGE TOO ! ahhhhhhhh............

(not all at one sitting.... started 3 days ago --- it makes several meals for me)

(I give a lot of food away, good food... so if you ever visit, you have a place to stay and all the food you can eat too while you're here)

 

[dfw69]

hee hee hee...... XTRA LARGE TOO ! ahhhhhhhh............

(not all at one sitting.... started 3 days ago --- it makes several meals for me)

(I give a lot of food away, good food... so if you ever visit, you have a place to stay and all the food you can eat too while you're here)

May you and I met in the kingdom in heaven and eat the Passover meal as family one day

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

May you and I met in the kingdom of heaven and eat the Passover meal as family one day

Amein! HalleluYah !

May it be so, and believe it or not, it may be in the next 2 years ! (or 200.... .... after all, what's a decimal point these days ?!?! )

 

[dfw69]

Amein! HalleluYah !

May it be so, and believe it or not, it may be in the next 2 years ! (or 200.... .... after all, what's a decimal point these days ?!?! )

To be honest it will not be the next 2 years ... The scriptures point to a false messiah and false messianic age first ...and those who convert to Torah and deny Christ will be safe ... Those who still hold to yeshua will be condemned ...yeshua said when Israel recieved her messiah and they say behold he is here we are told to do not go after them .. For false messiahs and false prophets will arise to decieve ... But the end is not yet... They will rebuild the temple and rule the world for a season .... It is not until revelation or Daniel 70th week begins that will point to the return of yeshua ... One sure sign is a golem placed on the temple and Israel will flee from the antichrist this is known as the abomination of desolatation ... When a man sits in the temple claiming to be God Israel is warn to flee ... In those days the time will be short and the lords return will be soon for Israel will cry for him to come save them and he will answer them and save them

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

To be honest it will not be the next 2 years .

Read Jesus Own Words in the Gospels Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
What HE says about the kingdom. (I'm not sure it's in all 4, but much is)
I already share everything (and suffer with them daily) in common with brothers and sisters overseas. The union in Yeshua is True and Real, just as He prayed in JOHN 17, as the Father granted , and as the disciples though the NT lived daily .....
WE (disciples abiding in Yeshua) share in His Kingdom now on earth, as well as in the world to come.

Don't worry about the old fake......... he's been busy for over 2000 years and
has most people duped all along, all over the world.

Only the elect are saved, and just barely many times !

 

[gadar perets]

So I can keep the law and not be circumcised?

If I am understanding Paul correctly, yes. Anyone who has received Yeshua as Master and Savior, but is not circumcised can no longer obey the law to be circumcised on the eighth day. However, we are expected to circumcise our children, not so they will be saved or justified, but because we love Yahweh and obey Him as a fruit of our salvation.

 

[gadar perets]

I don't keep the laws of God but I have never committed anything on the list you have above .. Now isn't that amazing?

There is more to Torah than just those few things Jeff mentioned. Do you keep the Feasts and eat only clean meats?

 

[gadar perets]

To be honest it will not be the next 2 years ... The scriptures point to a false messiah and false messianic age first ...and those who convert to Torah and deny Christ will be safe ... Those who still hold to yeshua will be condemned ...

Where do you find that in Scripture?

 

[dfw69]

If I am understanding Paul correctly, yes. Anyone who has received Yeshua as Master and Savior, but is not circumcised can no longer obey the law to be circumcised on the eighth day. However, we are expected to circumcise our children, not so they will be saved or justified, but because we love Yahweh and obey Him as a fruit of our salvation.

I have to disagree with you bro .. Paul clearly warns Gentiles to not be circumcised and nowhere in New Testament scripture does it say circumcised our children on the 8th day ... Every one knows those were Jewish laws for Jewish people it was them that recieved the Sinai covenant.... Mixing the old with the new leads to these kind of expectations ...

What do you think Paul meant by this ? 1 Corinthians 7:18-19

How can a man circumcised seek to be uncircumcised?...

And what commandments do you follow?.. The 10? the 613 ?

I keep only 2 laws love God with all my heart and love everyone else as God ...I believe these two laws will give me eternal life ... For in keeping these 2 laws I show my faith that I have recieved Christ as my law keeper for me to fulfill the law for me taking away the law from me nailing the law to the cross ... I believe this is the true faith all must learn to walk in

There is more to Torah than just those few things Jeff mentioned. Do you keep the Feasts and eat only clean meats?

I only keep up with the feast to know the dates because I believe they are prophetic and God will work a work on those days ... But no not like the Jews keep the feast I don't know their laws ...I'm a gentile ...I don't know what are clean meats I live by the new covenant that all things are clean if we recieve them with thanksgiving

 

[dfw69]

Where do you find that in Scripture?

I believe Zionism is going to produce a false messiah ... But the people will believe him to be the true messiah because he has fulfilled messianic prophecies ... Judaism will teach the world yeshua was a false prophet ... Strict study of the leavened scripture proves that to be true ... And man will fall away from faith in yeshua ...

Many are already falling away from the faith to learn and keep the Torah ... Many already have fallen from grace and reject yeshua righteousness of the law for them .. If not , then they would have remained in the faith .. But they were seduced away ...They willfully have chosen to believe yeshua did not fulfilled the law for them ... Instead they believe yeshua showed the way by keeping the law and so we must do as he did ... It's clever ..it's very deceptive.... The desire to be one with Israel in the flesh is a mistake and a snare

welcome to the new age ...It's only a matter of time they will deny yeshua completely ....a little leaven will leaven the entire lump.....as they open their eyes to the leavened scriptures they will come to that conclusion....that yeshua is a false prophet ... The more I learn through the eyes of the Jews the more I see where this is all heading ...

Jesus said another man who comes in his own name will the Jews recieve as messiah... And in order for the Jews to recieve another he must fulfill messianic prophecies... he will accomplish that with help from rulers of the nations ... And he will rebuild the temple and sacrifices restored and peace will commence and the teachings of the law based on Judaism implemented like never before... Then persecution against the truth of yeshua will commence like never before.

we will be seen as fools to know and trust in yeshua and the leavened scriptures will be against us ...

 

[FreeinChrist]

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[Lulav]