As this is not the proper forum for debate, I will only comment that Yeshua prophesied that Peter would be led away by another to doctrines which Yeshua did not preach, and in this direction he (Peter) was warned that should not go (John 21:18); this appears to be the reason why Yeshua, in the same chapter, repeatedly warned Peter that he should 1) pay attention to feeding his lambs & sheep (with true doctrine), repeated three times, and 2) follow Yeshua (not anyone else), repeated twice. It appears Peter was led away by Paul to the latter's foreign doctrine ("grace only" vs. Yeshua's doctrine of "faith & faithfulness") in his possible endorsement of Paul's writings and elsewhere. In essence, Peter would fail to be a faithful witness for Messiah, whereas Messiah seems to hint that John's testimony would remain true to Him to the end (John 21:21).
Uhh am I the only one who noticed a gross misunderstanding of Scripture here?
I won't say it's deliberate, but it's hard to believe that the verse was taken out of context considering if you just read a line later it explains why Jesus told Peter that he would be dragged away.
John specifically says that Jesus was only talking about the kind of death Peter would glorify God with, not that Peter would be led astray in the sense of teaching ungodly things. But that he would be dragged and killed by people in order to glorify God.
John 21:15-19
When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Feed my lambs.” He said to him a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Tend my sheep.” He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, “Do you love me?” and he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my sheep.
Truly, truly, I say to you, when you were young, you used to dress yourself and walk wherever you wanted, but when you are old, you will stretch out your hands, and another will dress you and carry you where you do not want to go.” This he said to show by what kind of death he was to glorify God. And after saying this he said to him, “Follow me.”
Also, unless Jesus' high priestly prayer failed (John 17), Peter was not lost and the Holy Spirit guided every apostle (including Paul whose writings were considered Scripture by Peter in 2 Peter 3:16). Afterall the 12 (except for Judas) were not of the world (John 17:14), and Jesus asked the Father to sanctify them in the truth, which is His word (John 17:17).
2 Peter 3:14-18
Therefore, beloved, since you are waiting for these, be diligent to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace. And count the patience of our Lord as salvation,
just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.
But if you don't walk away with anything else, it's that John 21:18 is not about Peter falling away in doctrine or sin. In fact it actually seems to imply the opposite; that Peter will glorify God even in his death.
Correct. National Israel is not one and the same as spiritual Israel.
Just wondering for my own understanding of where you are coming from: what Scriptures do you hold to that support this conclusion?
I hold to it because of Paul's writings. I would just like to know why you believe it.