Is Blasphemy Unforgivable (I Need Help part 2)

No, there's nothing that says anything like that.

There's two ways you could look at this. One is that you could have a not-very-uncommon mental disorder, in which case, you need some happy pills and this just goes away. The other is that you're being willfully tormented by demons. Either your brain is inaccurate, or you're dealing with the Father of Lies. (In fact, I suppose it's possible that it's both.)

What's interesting about this is what they have in common: What you are being told is false.

And no, I can't find anything about giving up your soul in the Bible, and I have no reason to believe it's possible. It stems, I think, from one of the early heresies, putting God in conflict with an equally powerful evil entity.

shadesoflight62 said:

also.. these voices just told me that i was going to die a week after i "gave away my soul". i had that "fantasy" last wednesday...
and now i don't know what to do.
again, my apologies for making you deal with this...


somebody help me.

god, save me. please, please. please. please. please. please

I'm starting to think that all of this praying and pleading isn't helping. I appreciate so much your reassurance that I am actually okay, and that god still hears me, and I don't know why that can't stick with me for more than an hour or so. Please help. What can i do. I don't want to go to hell. I hope I didn't actually give up my soul. I wonder if you can physically give up your soul. is there anything in the bible that says something about that? I'm so immensily lost..

i am so so so so so so so so sorry.

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Are you ignoring the help?

Jesus said that the only unforgiveable sin is unbelief. If you believe that He died for your sins, shades, then bask in it. Read what He did for you over and over again until you believe it. IT IS TRUE! You are forgiven forever! That is all you need to remember. Christianity is truth and forgiveness. Simply confess everything you know you've done wrong. It this is true repentance, there will be tears and remorse. All He wants from us is the truth. He does the rest! Remember, there is nothing that you have thought, said, or done that other people haven't also done. You are forgiven!

Shadesoflight i feel for you i myself have been through those feelings, not to that extent but i have been there. It's not nice, but in the end you have to accept that you are forgiven.

If you feel better at night after praying like you say you do... why do you think that is?? Its because God is staying close to you at your time of need. If you had been to commit this unforgivable sin would you even feel God is with you now?

If you have any more troubles with this keep posting here or send me a PM i'm happy to listen.

I will pray for you, just keep praying it always solves your problems even though it doesnt seem so at this time.

shadesoflight62 said:

Is it?

Because...

When I was in 6th , 7th, ect. grade.... (4-5 years ago)

You know how some kids have their own "fantasy worlds"....

Well i had one

it was set in this other place... i guess it was a part of heaven.
there was this man i was friends with, named Kasseem.
he had a wife, celena.
god was there. i would have "conversations" with him, i suppose.
Basically, during all of the fantasies, I would go to battles against the devil.
in hell. saving people. stopping heaven from being destroyed.
like, shooting, stabbing, killing battles.
and i would always prevail against him. they were all like bad disney movies.
and i believed that these things were real.
and i basically believed that i was the next jesus.

and then for years after, i would not "go into" this world.
and assumed that these were all just fantasies from when i was a kid who watched too much tv and played too many violent videogames.
and nothing else.

and around last november, a kid i knew died in a housefire
and all of this death paranoia set in

i then sorta started having these "fantasies" again.
and every night almost, i would be scared witless, waiting for death to come.

then, last wednesday morning, i had the "fantasy" i explained
in the "I Need Help" thread of the forum.'

and then I learned that blasphemy was an unforgivable sin.


with this knowledge, and that past idea that my soul is lost forever, i don't know what to do.

somebody help me.

i'm on the verge of tears and going crazy.

If i had it to do all over again, i would take it all back. all the blasphemy, the lusting, everything i've ever done wrong. I'm sorry, god. please forgive me. please. Please. please. Please.

I really don't want to suffer forever. I was a stupid kid back then. I'd take everything back if i could. I'm no messiah. Please. Somebody help.

I really don't want to go to hell. or die soon.

I pray every single day. and it calms me down sometimes,

but the fear always sets in again.

always

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The Lord will and has forgiven you, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is not accepting the holy spirit, for a man must be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven and not accepting the holy spirit (Not willing to become a born again Christian) will result in the second death which is being cast into the lake of fire for eternity. Now you thought you were the next Jesus? Well we all should follow Jesus's example, but what ever you do make sure you give the lord Jesus Christ all of the glory...also your right your not the next messiah, but the lord understands and knows you were a kid back then with a wild imagination, also I don't know exactly but some where it says in bible that there is a certain age where a person will not be accountable for his sins, But I think that age might be 13 and under. So if you were 7 or 8 or even 9 your sins were not accountable towards you.

Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is not something that happens by accident. You have to know God as real and then chose to not accept His love and help through His Son. You have to have been given much knowledge and then make a decision based on knowledge and not ignorance of God. If you are concerned enough to seek help and go to Church, then you don't sound like someone that knows God and has decided to not accept His gift. Stick with going to Church and having fellowship. Get with your pastors and tell them you need special help and prayer. Have then lay hands on you and annoint you with oil, having the prayer of faith said over you with two or more gathered in His name....then grab hold and believe in God's Word - what has been settled in heaven and on earth by His power. Voices are like shadows and cannot hurt you. Although we walk through the valley of shadow of death we fear no evil, for God is with us. Nothing can take you from His hand if you trust in Him and call on His name.

Shadesoflight, as many others have stated here, if you believe in Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and have accepted as such, you ARE going to Heaven.

However, I am very concerned for you after reading your posts. I'm glad that you have seen a psychiatrist and are taking meds, which will help the physical causes. But I strongly feel that you need to speak to a strong Christian counselor as quickly as possible for assistance on the mental and spiritual causes. The devil will attack in many ways when we are moving forward, and he is a strong adversary. Even so, God promises offers this promise:

"So humble yourselves before God. Resist the Devil, and he will flee from you. Draw close to God, and God will draw close to you". James 4: 7-8a NLT

So we can resist the devil through God. Please seek Christian counseling quickly. You are in my prayers. Please keep us updated through this board.

Be blessed!
Mark

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD , "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future". Jeremiah 29: 11 NLT

shadesoflight62 said:

Basically, during all of the fantasies, I would go to battles against the devil.
in hell. saving people. stopping heaven from being destroyed.
like, shooting, stabbing, killing battles.
and i would always prevail against him. they were all like bad disney movies.
and i believed that these things were real.
and i basically believed that i was the next jesus.

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I think that even though you may despise your fantasies, they are symbolic of what you can acutally do to fight Satan. "shooting, stabbing, and killing" is not how we can fight Satan, but by following God's plan for your life and by spreading His word, you make Satan weaker.

clonenomore said:

if you believe in Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and have accepted as such, you ARE going to Heaven.

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The blasphemy of the spirit or unforgivable sin that you have been worrying about: it is clear you are not guilty of it.

I will keep you in my prayers.

I'll tell you a little story about myself.

I'm a weather freak. Not just sort of a weather freak, or a casual hobbyist -- I've been seriously into weather for 44 years (though it's not my chosen profession -- doing weather professionally would ruin the enjoyment I get from it).

I have my own weather station, keep my own data, make my own forecasts, and have a dedicated hard drive for storing weather data, radar pictures from the net which I turn into QuickTime movies so I can analyze the jet stream, etc. Don't ask me about the weather, because I'll tell you -- up to 60,000 feet and back 60 years! I'm actively involved in SkyWarn, and I chase thunderstorms, tornadoes, and the occasional hurricane which hits Texas (where I live).

When I was considerably younger, I used to like to pretend that I was a tornado or a hurricane and would "intensify" myself. Nothing in my path was immune to my "power".

Back in 1965 (when dinosaurs roamed the earth, oil was being created below the ground, and the Beatles were popular) we had a historic tornado outbreak in the Midwest called The Palm Sunday Tornado Outbreak, where literally dozens of severe tornadoes wreaked tremendous damage and killed scores of people. The outbreak was so pervasive, and so intense that my family and I spent the entire night in our tornado shelter.

Three days later, I became seriously ill and ended up having emergency surgery. I was convinced that all this had happened because of my tornado/hurricane fantasy! In fact, I was convinced I had lost my soul because of this; and while I was recovering I was literally quaking at the prospect of hellfire! (The family I grew up in was really fundamentalist -- at an intensity that most people probably can't comprehend.)

I was convinced that if I told my pastor about what had happened, that would finish me off. Finally, I confided in my teacher (who was a "heathen" Methodist who turned out to be one of the first real Christians I became friends with) who was able to explain to me that the tornado outbreak and the surgery which occurred right afterwards had nothing to do with my fantasy; that my soul belonged to God; and showed me a Scripture which made a huge impact on me and has stayed with me, as a rock for my faith, ever since.

I'll share it with you:

Romans 8:31-29

31 What then will we say about these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?
32 He who didn't spare his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how would he not also with him freely give us all things?
33 Who could bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, yes rather, who was raised from the dead, who is at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Could oppression, or anguish, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 Even as it is written, "For your sake we are killed all day long. We were accounted as sheep for the slaughter."
37 No, in all these things, we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,
39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

I hope this helps. I relate to your post, A LOT. I really do.

Christ's love,

überLutheran

When Jesus said that blaspheming against the Holy Spirit is an unpardonable sin, what he meant was that God judges these people immediately and instantly without a second thought. In the case of Ananas and Sapphira, this is what happened. But for those who are still alive, God always forgives them that repent. For instance, when the sorcerer came to Peter offering him money to give him the gift of miracles, it was a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit but yet he was not judged instantly. He was given an opportunity to repent and get right with God. Even today, people question the miracles done by Benny Hinn and the other evangelists. If they are alive, that means God has given them an opportunity to repent and get right with God.

shadesoflight62 said:

Is it?

Because...

When I was in 6th , 7th, ect. grade.... (4-5 years ago)

You know how some kids have their own "fantasy worlds"....

Well i had one

it was set in this other place... i guess it was a part of heaven.
there was this man i was friends with, named Kasseem.
he had a wife, celena.
god was there. i would have "conversations" with him, i suppose.
Basically, during all of the fantasies, I would go to battles against the devil.
in hell. saving people. stopping heaven from being destroyed.
like, shooting, stabbing, killing battles.
and i would always prevail against him. they were all like bad disney movies.
and i believed that these things were real.
and i basically believed that i was the next jesus.

and then for years after, i would not "go into" this world.
and assumed that these were all just fantasies from when i was a kid who watched too much tv and played too many violent videogames.
and nothing else.

and around last november, a kid i knew died in a housefire
and all of this death paranoia set in

i then sorta started having these "fantasies" again.
and every night almost, i would be scared witless, waiting for death to come.

then, last wednesday morning, i had the "fantasy" i explained
in the "I Need Help" thread of the forum.'

and then I learned that blasphemy was an unforgivable sin.


with this knowledge, and that past idea that my soul is lost forever, i don't know what to do.

somebody help me.

i'm on the verge of tears and going crazy.

If i had it to do all over again, i would take it all back. all the blasphemy, the lusting, everything i've ever done wrong. I'm sorry, god. please forgive me. please. Please. please. Please.

I really don't want to suffer forever. I was a stupid kid back then. I'd take everything back if i could. I'm no messiah. Please. Somebody help.

I really don't want to go to hell. or die soon.

I pray every single day. and it calms me down sometimes,

but the fear always sets in again.

always

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that can't happen.because Jesus isn't walking on the Earth anymore so your in the blue

Can someone explain to me what "speaking out against the Spirt" is? im lost on that.. what exactly IS the Spirit? How do u know if your speaking out against it, if u dnt know what it is?