Is birth control a form of discrimination?

[Autumnleaf]

Poor uneducated people don't use it as much and tend to have many children while more affluent people tend to use it and have less children. Isn't it prejudiced to discriminate based on economic status?

 

[Washington]

Poor uneducated people don't use it as much and tend to have many children while more affluent people tend to use it and have less children. Isn't it prejudiced to discriminate based on economic status?

Who is discriminating against whom?

 

[FaithLikeARock]

Wha?

 

[Paulos23]

Poor uneducated people don't use it as much and tend to have many children while more affluent people tend to use it and have less children. Isn't it prejudiced to discriminate based on economic status?

Uh? How is that discrimination?

 

[Autumnleaf]

Who is discriminating against whom?

Society is discriminating against fetuses of middle and upper class mothers.

 

[Paulos23]

Society is discriminating against fetuses of middle and upper class mothers.

So you are saying that people who decide to have smaller families are discriminating against fetuses?

Sorry, that one doesn't track...

 

[Shemjaza]

Poor uneducated people don't use it as much and tend to have many children while more affluent people tend to use it and have less children. Isn't it prejudiced to discriminate based on economic status?

If you consider contraception to be a form of discrimination against people who don't even exist yet... shouldn't you be out impregnating as many women from as many backgrounds as possible right now?

I'm reasonably sure you would think it a great sin to randomly impregnate people... but you shouldn't discriminate against people on the grounds that their father was an adulterous sinner.

(Personally I don't consider foetuses to be people... and I defiantly don't think non-existing, potential foetuses are people.)

 

[Washington]

Society is discriminating against fetuses of middle and upper class mothers.

Well, for one thing, middle and upper class mothers are part of society, so in effect a good portion of society would be discriminating against their own fetuses. And for another thing, what fetuses? The very nature of birth control effectively bars fetuses from discrimination. It's like complaining that people don't call you anymore since your phone service was disconnected. Or that people don't like your art work, although you've never done any.

 

[cantata]

It isn't discrimination.

But it is mildly worrying that liberal-minded people are less likely to have lots of babies.

 

[Shemjaza]

It isn't discrimination.

But it is mildly worrying that liberal-minded people are less likely to have lots of babies.

How many do you really need?

One day I hope to be a father to one or maybe two children. I figure that way I can give them the time and reseouces they need to grow up into happy productive people. If I had 8 kids I'd worry that I couldn't always be there for them.

 

[Paulos23]

How many do you really need?

One day I hope to be a father to one or maybe two children. I figure that way I can give them the time and reseouces they need to grow up into happy productive people. If I had 8 kids I'd worry that I couldn't always be there for them.

Personally I think having more then two kids in an industrial country is bordering on criminal. With the amount of resources those kids will go through before they even start to contribute back, we can't keep that up forever.

 

[Ramona]

Birth control pills can easily be obtained at Planned Parenthood for free if money is an issue. Birth control patches, rings, implants, and injections need to be prescribed by your ob/gyn, but they aren't significantly more effective than just the plain ol' pill.

 

[jayem]

Disparity in birth control use isn't discrimination. It's self-selection. Or even more specifically, it's a class trait. People in higher socio-economic strata are more likely to use birth control. That may or may not be a problem. But I don't see it as any kind of adverse discrimination against anyone.

 

[CaDan]

Poor uneducated people don't use it as much and tend to have many children while more affluent people tend to use it and have less children. Isn't it prejudiced to discriminate based on economic status?

No.

Next question.

 

[mpok1519]

Asanine post.

since when do zygotes/blastulas/gastrulas/fetuses have human rights?

People of lower classes generally can't afford the more expensive forms of birthcontrol. But you're also forgetting tha birth-control is not only prescription pills, but also prophylactics such as condoms and diaphragms, and surgical procedures, and certain sexual practices. People of every class use birth-controls.

You're making some strong statements; "poor people have more babies than rich people" is on the verge of one of the most ignorant statements I have hear don these boards.

 

[wanderingone]

Poor uneducated people don't use it as much and tend to have many children while more affluent people tend to use it and have less children. Isn't it prejudiced to discriminate based on economic status?

??? People with less resources have less access to birth control. Their states DO discriminate by failing to subsidize access to birth control. I'm not sure what you are pointing to as the discrimination though

 

[Chajara]

This is why Planned Parenthood exists. I couldn't afford the birth control I need either without them.

 

[mpok1519]

I think he should ask his parents about this kind of stuff.

 

[Autumnleaf]

Well, for one thing, middle and upper class mothers are part of society, so in effect a good portion of society would be discriminating against their own fetuses.

They are. Would you feel okay about this if white people could discriminate against black fetuses? What makes it okay for people to do it in their own family?

And for another thing, what fetuses? The very nature of birth control effectively bars fetuses from discrimination. It's like complaining that people don't call you anymore since your phone service was disconnected. Or that people don't like your art work, although you've never done any.

Fetuses don't have phones or make art, they are too young to do that. They can grow or they can be killed.

 

[snoochface]

If fetuses never exist because someone uses birth control, then how are they being "killed"?