Is baptism required for salvation?

[Chilaha]

Hey all,
Just wondering if baptism is required for salvation. I saw all the verses that says be baptized in my name and receive eternal life .... you know.
Chilaha

 

[ViaCrucis]

Hey all,
Just wondering if baptism is required for salvation. I saw all the verses that says be baptized in my name and receive eternal life .... you know.
Chilaha

If by "required" you mean that if someone isn't baptized then it is a guarantee that they will never be saved and/or they will automatically go to Hell on this basis alone then the answer is a most definite and unequivocal no.

If by "required" you mean that it has been given to us by God, by the word of our Lord Jesus Christ, as a Sacrament and means by which God brings us into faith and into His Body (the Church), uniting us to Christ and conferring all the promises associated with it (receiving the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38-39), being clothed with Christ (Galatians 3:28), making us new creations having been buried together with Jesus and being made partakers of His resurrection (Romans 6) and so on and so forth) then the answer is absolutely. Baptism does what it represents, it is efficacious; not as a work of man, but as an act of God, according to His unconditional grace toward us in Christ.

We should never have to ask, "Should I be baptized?" because the answer is yes. There is no reason not to receive Baptism if you are able to. The right question is, "What is stopping me from receiving Baptism?" and the answer to that is nothing at all except human stubbornness.

God forbids no one from receiving Baptism. It's there for everybody. All human beings everywhere of every kind without exception.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Hentenza]

Hey all,
Just wondering if baptism is required for salvation. I saw all the verses that says be baptized in my name and receive eternal life .... you know.
Chilaha

Baptism is not required for salvation. Only faith is required for salvation.

 

[Chilaha]

Ok, thanks for your answer.

 

[MrPolo]

It is the normative way to enter into the Body of Christ. So yes, it is required. It is possible God may bestow the graces given at baptism to others, but baptism is the means God established for us to recognize how the washing of the water washes away our sins.

 

[Dok]

Who is Peter speaking to in Acts 2:22? In Acts 2:29? Gentiles? No. Read Acts 2:22-38. What did Peter, the Apostle to the Jews, tell them in Acts 2:36? How did they respond when they realized that they had "slain" their Promised Messiah? To whom was the Messiah promised in the Hebrew Bible (the "Old Testament")? What was contained within that promise? I’ll answer the last one: the 1,000 year-long reign of Jesus, their Messiah, on the Throne of David. Instead of saying an unqualified YES! to that promise, they crucified the Lord of Glory, and, as it worked out, nailed to the Cross any hope of the Millennial Kingdom in that day. (he thundered!)

 

[virgilio]

We should never have to ask, "Should I be baptized?" because the answer is yes. There is no reason not to receive Baptism if you are able to. The right question is, "What is stopping me from receiving Baptism?" and the answer to that is nothing at all except human stubbornness.

God forbids no one from receiving Baptism. It's there for everybody. All human beings everywhere of every kind without exception.

Yes, One must have faith and be baptized with the the Holy Spirit. There are believers or followers of Jesus who had been baptized with baptism of John by water baptism but did not received the Holy Ghost. Acts 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

Baptism is not required for salvation. Only faith is required for salvation.

Baptism is required for a man Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.


Thanks and God bless.
your brother brother in Christ.
virgilio

 

[Girder of Loins]

Baptism is the outward expression of our faith. Baptism in and of itself is not required for salvation, but it is a required step in our walk with God.

 

[virgilio]

Baptism is the outward expression of our faith. Baptism in and of itself is not required for salvation, but it is a required step in our walk with God.

Hi girder of Loins, greetings,
How could it be that baptism is required but in itself but not required for salvation? How then are you baptised? by man? by religion? please elaborate.
Baptism is required for a man Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

How would you express your faith and how could you step in and walk with God if you had not been baptised by Holy Spirit?

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

 

[Girder of Loins]

Hi girder of Loins, greetings,
How could it be that baptism is required but in itself but not required for salvation? How then are you baptised? by man? by religion? please elaborate.
Baptism is required for a man Galatians 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

How would you express your faith and how could you step in and walk with God if you had not been baptised by Holy Spirit?

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

By baptism, I thought the OP meant physical baptism. As John the Baptist stated, Jesus baptizes us in the Holy Spirit, and we baptize each other in the flesh. Of course baptism in the Holy Spirit is necessary, as that is our turning from our old life to our new life in Christ. But the physical baptism, which i was referring to, is not required to salvation, but is necessary to growing in the Lord.

 

[virgilio]

By baptism, I thought the OP meant physical baptism. As John the Baptist stated, Jesus baptizes us in the Holy Spirit, and we baptize each other in the flesh. Of course baptism in the Holy Spirit is necessary, as that is our turning from our old life to our new life in Christ. But the physical baptism, which i was referring to, is not required to salvation, but is necessary to growing in the Lord.

Hi Girder of Loins greetings,
There are different meaning of baptism in regard how you look it.In church it is a sacramental or ritual ceremony signifying purification into a Christian church usually accomplished by immersion or sprinkling of water. For like me a non denomination and not affiliated with church; to be baptized is having personal experience which initiates or sanctifies by the Holy Spirit.

To be baptized is to personally know Jesus in Spirit and know is Holy name.
In Acts 19:2 Paul and Apollos met some believers who was received baptism of John the baptist, let's read the verse;
Acts 19:1-5 And it came to pass, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul, having passed through the upper districts, came to Ephesus, and finding certain disciples,

v.2 he said to them, Did ye receive [the] Holy Spirit when ye had believed? And they [said] to him, We did not even hear if [the] Holy Spirit was [come].

v.3 And he said, To what then were ye baptised? And they said, To the baptism of John.

v.4 And Paul said, John indeed baptised [with] the baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on him that was coming after him, that is, on Jesus.

v.5 And when they heard that, they were baptised to the name of the Lord Jesus.

Now John the baptist is dead, Paul and Apollos were no longer here all the apostle are not around us and Jesus Christ has now ascended to heaven who are those now authorized to baptise us?

John the baptise manifested in John 1:26-27 John answered them saying, I baptise with water. In the midst of you stands, whom ye do not know,

v.27 he who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to unloose.

Hope this help.

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

 

[Girder of Loins]

Hi Girder of Loins greetings,
There are different meaning of baptism in regard how you look it.In church it is a sacramental or ritual ceremony signifying purification into a Christian church usually accomplished by immersion or sprinkling of water. For like me a non denomination and not affiliated with church; to be baptized is having personal experience which initiates or sanctifies by the Holy Spirit.

To be baptized is to personally know Jesus in Spirit and know is Holy name.
In Acts 19:2 Paul and Apollos met some believers who was received baptism of John the baptist, let's read the verse;
Acts 19:1-5 And it came to pass, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul, having passed through the upper districts, came to Ephesus, and finding certain disciples,

v.2 he said to them, Did ye receive [the] Holy Spirit when ye had believed? And they [said] to him, We did not even hear if [the] Holy Spirit was [come].

v.3 And he said, To what then were ye baptised? And they said, To the baptism of John.

v.4 And Paul said, John indeed baptised [with] the baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on him that was coming after him, that is, on Jesus.

v.5 And when they heard that, they were baptised to the name of the Lord Jesus.

Now John the baptist is dead, Paul and Apollos were no longer here all the apostle are not around us and Jesus Christ has now ascended to heaven who are those now authorized to baptise us?

John the baptise manifested in John 1:26-27 John answered them saying, I baptise with water. In the midst of you stands, whom ye do not know,

v.27 he who comes after me, the thong of whose sandal I am not worthy to unloose.

Hope this help.

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ.
virgilio

yeah, I was under the assumption the OP was talking about the ceremony, not the spiritual definition of baptism.

 

[virgilio]

yeah, I was under the assumption the OP was talking about the ceremony, not the spiritual definition of baptism.

Hi,
For me sacrament of baptism being rendered in church was a tradition just to show your affiliation to a certain sect and in no way can earn salvation.

Baptism as I know is to bring man to believe in Jesus by hearing the gospel of Christ. In ritual initiation in church as I heard from the priest he said o the one being baptise" ego te baptise in nomine et patri, et filii, et spiritu sancti. which mean " I hereby baptise you in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and you shall be call (name of being baptise) so, the purpose f baptism is to give names.

The problem here is the one ordain the baptism does not know if what is the name of the Father, the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

Thanks and God bless.
your brother in Christ
virgilio

 

[Jordan Fontenot]

There's a few reasons I have problems saying that the Bible doesn't mean for us to be physically baptized.

1) Jesus commands it at the commission
2) Every time, save once, that we are given an example of baptism in the Bible, somebody gets wet physically.
3) Jesus even says that unless we are born of both water and spirit we cannot be saved
4) Peter mentions that, pertaining to water, baptism now saves us. (1 Peter 3:21)
5) The original greek had conintations relating to things going into water and coming out changed.
6) Paul mentions that there is only one baptism
7) Paul was obviously water baptized at his conversion, why would he preach a different baptism?

 

[virgilio]

There's a few reasons I have problems saying that the Bible doesn't mean for us to be physically baptized.

Hi Jordan Fontenot greetings,
Correct, the true baptism is spiritual but to be baptized physically is done to show one's affiliation to church which he/she belong.

1) Jesus commands it at the commission.

Go ye therefore, and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. (Matthew 28:19)
One of the purpose of baptism is to give name to the one being baptise and to teach or baptise them in the name of Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.Problem here is the pastor/minister doesn't know there name.

2

) Every time, save once, that we are given an example of baptism in the Bible, somebody gets wet physically.

It depend on church system of baptism ,some by immersion and other by sprinkling.

]quote]3) Jesus even says that unless we are born of both water and spirit we cannot be saved

That is spiritual baptism.

4) Peter mentions that, pertaining to water, baptism now saves us. (1 Peter 3:21)

which also after a true likeness doth now save you, even baptism, not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the interrogation of a good conscience toward God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ;

Or are ye ignorant that all we who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him through baptism unto death: that like as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life.For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection; ( Romans 6:3-6)

5) The original greek had conintations relating to things going into water and coming out changed.

That is spiritual regeneration after baptism;Wherefore we faint not; but though our outward man is decaying, yet our inward man is renewed day by day. 2 Corinthians 4:16

6) Paul mentions that there is only one baptism.

Yes, For in one Spirit were we all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether bond or free; and were all made to drink of one Spirit.

Paul was obviously water baptized at his conversion, why would he preach a different baptism?

Aswhat I've said water baptism is to show affiliation with the church but the true baptism is here;

And he said, The God of our fathers hath appointed thee to know his will, and to see the Righteous One, and to hear a voice from his mouth.And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sin. For thou shalt be a witness for him unto all men of what thou hast seen ans, calling on his name.

Acts 22:14-16

 

[Hillsage]

There's a few reasons I have problems saying that the Bible doesn't mean for us to be physically baptized.

1) Jesus commands it at the commission

But water is not mentioned with that baptism...it is assumed.

2) Every time, save once, that we are given an example of baptism in the Bible, somebody gets wet physically.

This is definitely supportive of the importance of water baptism.

3) Jesus even says that unless we are born of both water and spirit we cannot be saved

He says you can't "see the kingdom" unless you're "born again". He then says; "unless you're born of water and spirit you can't enter the kingdom". It does not say you can't enter into heaven though.

4) Peter mentions that, pertaining to water, baptism now saves us. (1 Peter 3:21)

Only from a guilty conscience according to scripture. 1PE 3:21 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you,...as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

6) Paul mentions that there is only one baptism

Which is the 'baptism of death' that only Jesus underwent. Eph 4's "one baptism" has nothing to do with our baptisms (plural).

7) Paul was obviously water baptized at his conversion, why would he preach a different baptism?

Because the church has missed the fact that there is more than one.

HEB 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine/logos of Christ, let us go on unto perfection (maturity); not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms,...

Does anyone's church teach the 'elementary doctrines' of, multiple 'baptisms', as a requirement for going from spiritual immaturity to maturity?

 

[LantanaAnna]

yes , baptism is required. How can this be a valid question when our Lord himself , who is the creator and Savior submitted to baptism on this earth? He showed us what we must do to enter heaven.

 

[PROPHECYKID]

Hey all,
Just wondering if baptism is required for salvation. I saw all the verses that says be baptized in my name and receive eternal life .... you know.
Chilaha

Baptism of the spirit is definitely required because then you would just be a slave to sin. Water baptism is not a requirement per se, but she naturally follow spirit baptism. God seems water baptism as very important and that is why Jesus spoke about it in the way he does.

 

[Thigbee]

Baptism is the outward expression of our faith. Baptism in and of itself is not required for salvation, but it is a required step in our walk with God.

I keep hearing this, that baptism is the "outward expression of our faith" - or an "outward sign of an inner faith" or something similar. Where in the bible does it say or teach that?

I heard a "bible answer man" the other day assert "the bible requires we publicly profess our faith/conversion immediately after being saved." I wanted to call in and ask him where the bible taught that too.

 

[Butch5]

By baptism, I thought the OP meant physical baptism. As John the Baptist stated, Jesus baptizes us in the Holy Spirit, and we baptize each other in the flesh. Of course baptism in the Holy Spirit is necessary, as that is our turning from our old life to our new life in Christ. But the physical baptism, which i was referring to, is not required to salvation, but is necessary to growing in the Lord.

I believe the OP did mean water baptism. Jesus said, he who believes and is baptized shall be saved.