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Trust who ? No thanks.Trust me Mark,
A person cannot read the bible and come away a Calvinist.
One must be doctrinated to that belief system.
Still don't know what you're speaking of.Trust who ? No thanks.
A person CAN read the Bible, as the religious leaders in Jesus' day did more than anyone you know, and they STILL sought to kill Jesus.
Today, religious leaders are STILL doing much harm, EVEN if they read the Bible.
Seeking to " prove " what you haveI guess you and others are entitled to your own fevered imaginations.
Me too.
No one has ever proven truthfully that the flood did not happen.
When someone seeking truth goes into active research to try to prove the flood did not happen, or that Jesus did not live on earth,
they end up believing in Jesus and the flood.
Weird to some, true to all those seeking truth.
Fundamentalists for sure bring discreditTrust who ? No thanks.
A person CAN read the Bible, as the religious leaders in Jesus' day did more than anyone you know, and they STILL sought to kill Jesus.
Today, religious leaders are STILL doing much harm, EVEN if they read the Bible.
What was decided in advance ?Seeking to " prove " what you have
decided in advance is the very definition
of intellectual dishonesty.
A very poor start on a Quest for Truth.
Maybe I misunderstood. What did you mean about reading the Bible in the post I quoted a couple different times and you replied asking a question what I meant ? Do you still think no one can read the Bible and come out a Calvinist or any other group ?Still don't know what you're speaking of.
Sorry.
Oh...clearly a different drummer than you my friend.Obviously you're not listening.
Luke 19:40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.
Or maybe you're marching to a different drummer?
And Unfundamentalists too. Men bring multitudes of discredit on mankind daily, politically, medically, religiously, educationally, financially, in basically anything and everything men get involved in, they prove themselves greedy or actors in the stage of life, or simply to not be what they want to appear to be, but they still want the approval of other men that they want approval from.Fundamentalists for sure bring discredit
I believe that a person that reads the New Testament all on his own, will come away with the following ideas:Maybe I misunderstood. What did you mean about reading the Bible in the post I quoted a couple different times and you replied asking a question what I meant ? Do you still think no one can read the Bible and come out a Calvinist or any other group ?
No. Too many flaws in the post.Do you agree?
The Surrency Bright Spot is a large geographic feature about nine miles (15 km) below the surface that reflects seismic waves. It's located near Surrency, Georgia, along the suture point between the old North American Plate and part of the African Plate. That's about all that's known about it. Speculation on what it is ranges from water trapped in the suture point to a pocket of gas trapped in the suture point, both under extreme pressure. Problem is the temperature at that depth should rule out water and maybe gas as well.What is the Surrency Bright Spot?
Um...I know of a meander that became an oxbow lake during the US Civil War, when, during a flood, a river cut through the closest point. Rivers with oxbows aren't fixed. Even the Mississippi isn't fixed. I think there was a steamboat carrying a cargo of whiskey that sunk in the Mississippi, and it was found some years ago in what's now a corn field.He's got his wires crossed.
I submit two major geological phenomena as evidence of the Flood: meandering rivers and white cliffs.
More appropriately, they would constitute evidence of God's cleanup afterwards.
The meandering rivers etching serpentine paths into the earth's surface; and the white cliffs being formed when God swept up coccoliths into nice neat piles.
Um...I know of a meander that became an oxbow lake during the US Civil War, when, during a flood, a river cut through the closest point. Rivers with oxbows aren't fixed. Even the Mississippi isn't fixed. I think there was a steamboat carrying a cargo of whiskey that sunk in the Mississippi, and it was found some years ago in what's now a corn field.
There is zero evidence that a Global flood ever happened. The Earth itself clearly shows that truth.No one has ever proven truthfully that the flood did not happen.
There is zero evidence that a Global flood ever happened. The Earth itself clearly shows that truth.
Across the ages, sea levels have risen and fallen with temperatures—but Earth's total surface water was always assumed to be constant. Now, evidence is mounting that some 3 billion to 4 billion years ago, the planet's oceans held nearly twice as much water—enough to submerge today's continents above the peak of Mount Everest. The flood could have primed the engine of plate tectonics and made it more difficult for life to start on land.
I wonder, though, what evidence we would see, based on nothing more than something I observed once. It was during a major flood. One location was maybe a mile from the river, another was maybe half a mile. Both were situated where the water backed onto the sites without much of a current. The result was no erosion and nothing in the way of sediment deposit. The only sign after the water went down was a stain on a wire fence.There is zero evidence that a Global flood ever happened. The Earth itself clearly shows that truth.
There's a LOT of time difference between 3 or 4 billion years ago than the time line of the supposed Biblical flood.
There's a LOT of time difference between 3 or 4 billion years ago than the time line of the supposed Biblical flood.
I made no dishonest statement.What was decided in advance ?
Why can't you or anyone else prove the flood did not happen, or that Jesus did not live on earth ?
You are not required to prove anything, but making dishonest statements like you did in this quoted post of yours, as if it proves anything , which it doesn't, does not help you in any way.
Ice floats, breaks up and melts.I wonder, though, what evidence we would see, based on nothing more than something I observed once. It was during a major flood. One location was maybe a mile from the river, another was maybe half a mile. Both were situated where the water backed onto the sites without much of a current. The result was no erosion and nothing in the way of sediment deposit. The only sign after the water went down was a stain on a wire fence.
How is this anecdote possibly applicable? Because the Genesis account of the flood not only says it rained, but that the water also came up from what it describes as the springs of the deep. Possibly making it similar to that event I observed? Don't know. A lack of current would have an impact on erosion, and that in turn on the amount of sediment.
This idea is double-edged, though. If it didn't cause significant erosion, some of the cited arguments in favor of the flood become meaningless. I'll also offer a counter-argument with the Antarctic ice cap with the question of why wouldn't it float off.
Just tossing out something. Not arguing about it one way or the other.
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