Is asking God to heal someone pointless ?

[GreatistheLord]

Sorry for the blunt title, but my last question got sidetracked into better ways of praying. I know...... but my question stands......

Is asking God to heal someone pointless unbelief OR does God sometimes
respond to this type of prayer ?

 

[GreatistheLord]

... I take it that noone has seen success in praying to God and asking them to heal someone ? noone ?

 

[SQLservant]

I suppose there is more clarification needed here before discussion can start... what do you mean by "pointless unbelief?" What do you define as "success" in this regard? Successful medical treatment, or is nothing less than a miracle sufficient? This is a rather nebulous question, though on the face of it, I would say no, it's never pointless.

 

[Catherineanne]

Sorry for the blunt title, but my last question got sidetracked into better ways of praying. I know...... but my question stands......

Is asking God to heal someone pointless unbelief OR does God sometimes
respond to this type of prayer ?

I have had an illness since 1997, and I have never asked God to heal me from it. He knows that I would rather be better than not, but I have never made this specific petition.

In the Lord's Prayer I pray 'God's will be done', and I trust him to do what is right. Every day at Mass I pray as part of the service, 'Lord, I am not worthy that thou shoudst come under my roof, but only say the word, and I shall be healed.'

It is not pointless to ask for healing, but it must always be with two provisos in mind. Firstly, that God is more interested in spiritual healing - that of the spirit and the soul - than in physical healing, and secondly, that his healing happens in his time. Sometimes healing means leaving this world, and entering eternity. Sometimes it means respite or cure of a particular illness, and the ability to live a fuller life.

I accept what God offers to me in my life. I accept the condition I have as part of his will for me. I accept that without it I would not be closer to him, and might well be further away. One day he may help me to overcome it, but in the meantime the first kind of healing is the one I am interested in; the kind that heals my relationship with God and keeps me close to him. The rest does not matter.

 

[TRUEPeace]

With healing I believe that God himself does not need to directly remove the ailment from you but sometimes he may put things in your way that can lead to a cure or improvement? I do not know really, I am obsessed with natural medicines and using herbs/fruits/vegetables/herbal teas etc to help with any health problems since I have never agreed with conventional medicine. Also I just prefer using God's gifts to us in the nature hehe
God bless

 

[Steve Petersen]

Sorry for the blunt title, but my last question got sidetracked into better ways of praying. I know...... but my question stands......

Is asking God to heal someone pointless unbelief OR does God sometimes
respond to this type of prayer ?

Asking God to heal someone is pointless. Do you really think God is going to change His eternal plan because we ask Him to?

Ever hear of the Butterfly Effect?

 

[GreatistheLord]

to clarify, by pointless, i mean is it effective. Do people get healed.

And noone can yet say that it has worked - will you be the first ?

 

[Catherineanne]

to clarify, by pointless, i mean is it effective. Do people get healed.

And noone can yet say that it has worked - will you be the first ?

Did you even bother to read my reply? I thought I made it clear that it does work, but not always in the way we want it to. God's idea of healing is not necessarily the same as ours.

Sometimes he does heal us of illness; it happens all the time. Sometimes he does not, because it is for our spiritual advantage not to be healed.

God is not some kind of ATM. We have to align our will with his, not the other way round.

 

[SQLservant]

What catherineanne said.

We still don't have a working definition of "effective." It sounds like you mean "does it cause miracles to happen," in which case we should also rule out the effectiveness of most prayer. "Give us this day our daily bread" doesn't work unless a loaf of bread descends to you from heaven, "keep us safe through the night" doesn't work unless God's Hand catches the meteorite that smashes through the bedroom ceiling before it reaches you... why pray at all? After all, it's not "effective."

 

[GreatistheLord]

We still don't have a working definition of "effective."

Yes we do, I clarified the definition - physical healing. It was a simple question, please dont hiijack it.

Catherineanne, I did read it, but this thread is not about your acceptance
of sickness as God's will, Im not going to get sidetracked into your theology.


Does asking God to heal someone effectively, physically heal them, ever?

 

[Catherineanne]

Yes we do, I clarified the definition - physical healing. It was a simple question, please dont hiijack it.

Catherineanne, I did read it, but this thread is not about your acceptance
of sickness as God's will, Im not going to get sidetracked into your theology.

Charming.

I am underwhelmed by your compassion.

Does asking God to heal someone effectively, physically heal them, ever?

For the third and last time: yes.

 

[GeorgiaGuyinAtlanta]

Asking God to physically heal someone is not pointless. If that were the case, the multitudes who went to Jesus and asked for healing would have been in vain, and we all know that it wasn't. Jesus had compassion on those afflicted with disease and He healed them.

Jesus also spoke to the disciples and informed them that they had the power to heal, not only spiritually through His spirit, but also physically.

While God does know our hearts, He does expect obedience and is honoring to a humble heart. Coming humbly before the Lord and asking for healing is no different than the sick and afflicted coming before Jesus and asking to be healed.

If it is God's will for a person to be healed, He will heal the person of their sickness. God has a plan, and part of showing devotion to that plan is being submissive and humble to the Lord. The Lord looks favorably on those who believe and trust with a humble heart, though He may not always physically heal, He often does because He can.

 

[franky67]

Sorry for the blunt title, but my last question got sidetracked into better ways of praying. I know...... but my question stands......

Is asking God to heal someone pointless unbelief OR does God sometimes
respond to this type of prayer ?

Jesus is our standard, we call ourselves CHRISTIANS.

So what did Jesus teach regarding healing when He sent out the 12, and the 70 ?

Did He tell them to pray for God to heal the sick? Or did He tell them to heal the sick ?

Know what the will of God is concerning healing, If He Himself took our infirmities, and carried away our diseases, Matthew 8:17, then why would He desire us to carry them too ?

Do what He says to do.

 

[Tee_w]

[FONT=Palatino Linotype, serif]I see your icon is faith charismatic, like mine so I reckon I know were you are coming from. In answer to your original question [/FONT]Is asking God to heal someone pointless unbelief OR does God sometimes respond to this type of prayer ?

[FONT=Palatino Linotype, serif]I have known people pray this prayer and get an instant healing or miracle. If I have understood where you are coming from you probably believe that healing is already a done deal and I would be in agreement with you there, but if we don't see it manifest in someone’s body we can ask God to manifest it by praying Lord heal him now. See Isa 45:11.

Blessings,
Tee
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[franky67]

[FONT=Palatino Linotype, serif]I see your icon is faith charismatic, like mine so I reckon I know were you are coming from. In answer to your original question [/FONT]Is asking God to heal someone pointless unbelief OR does God sometimes respond to this type of prayer ?

[FONT=Palatino Linotype, serif]I have known people pray this prayer and get an instant healing or miracle. If I have understood where you are coming from you probably believe that healing is already a done deal and I would be in agreement with you there, but if we don't see it manifest in someone’s body we can ask God to manifest it by praying Lord heal him now. See Isa 45:11.

Blessings,
Tee
[/FONT]

Hi there Tee, good to meet you.

Healing is past tense, and Jesus finished His task, if healing isn't manifested, the ball is still in our court, not His, He has provided, already.

God makes no more decisions regarding healing.

 

[Child of JC]

Mat 10:7 As you go, preach this message: 'The kingdom of heaven is near.'
Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.

I've asked God to heal people but they didn't get healed. I have not witnessed any dead people come back to life, and there's not much deliverance of demons in these parts either. I think the OP is asking a fair question. It seems to me that the majority of the church is missing something. Jesus healed people when He walked the earth. When blind people are able to see as a result of prayer I call that "effective".

Does God Heal? If the answer is yes then why are people not being healed? I believe the answer is "yes", I mean the bible says so. BUT I don't have the experience and I know I'm not alone. I've never heard a good teaching on this either that caused my faith to grow.

I was thinking about Elijah today. He believed. We don't seem to believe like that today. He poured water on the alter! We make excuses for the lack of Power that is displayed. Our corporate prayers are "watch over them as they travel; comfort them; ...." When we come back together the next week nobody rejoices at the fact that God answered our prayers. Those prayers are safe; not faith required. Our God is a star breathing God and we ask Him to watch over our friends as they travel? Can't we do that in our own time? Is THAT the stuff we're trusting our God for?

I want to witness the Power of our Great Big God. I want to see healed eyes. I want to see limbs grow. I want to see the dead raised. I want to see souls snatched from the flames of hell. I want to see Faith in action like Elijah had. What I don't want is people telling me that we have to settle for less. God CAN heal "effectively", as in fully and completely... so then, why are we not?

 

[Leimeng]

~ Build up your faith and knowledge of healing first! Read and meditate on the scriptures related to healing in the old testament and new testament. Read how Jesus healed all who came to him. Think on these things. Read them outloud. "Faith comes by hearing."
~ If your theology or religious system teaches something contrary to the Word of God regarding healing, change so that you are in line with God's Word.
~ Continue to discuss amongst yourselves...

Peace,

Leimeng

Flatulo Ergo Sum ~~~

(***Insert Personal One Liner Here***)

 

[bsd31]

It's not pointless, but... if the person you are praying for isn't in complete agreement that...

1) God can heal them
2) God is willing to heal them
3) God has in fact already healed them

... then it is pretty pointless to spend time praying for another persons healing. What needs to happen is they need to have their faith built up that God can, will and has healed them by way of the scriptures. You know things like "I am the Lord that heals you", "By His stripes we were healed", etc, etc, etc. Until the person you're praying for believes the scriptures and takes them at face value nothing is going to happen when you pray for them to be healed.

 

[whatfor]

I had to check first where this thread was, it did not seem like answers I would expect from the healing ministry section of the forum.

My answer is yes I have seen many healed by God when I have prayed that way.
Read John 14:14 and other simular verses through John, about seven say along the lines of "anything you ask in my name I will do.

So ask in Jesus name and believe in you heart and you will receive.

For the record it has not seemed to make a difference if the person I prayed for believed.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Sorry for the blunt title, but my last question got sidetracked into better ways of praying. I know...... but my question stands......

Is asking God to heal someone pointless unbelief OR does God sometimes
respond to this type of prayer ?

1 Peter 2:24 (By his stripes you were healed), shows that physical healing was provided for when Jesus was scourged before His crucifixion. This means that God provided healing 2000 years ago. So, asking God to heal someone is asking for something He has already provided.

Think about this. If someone asks you for $20, and you say, "Yes, I have provided it for you and transferred it to your bank account", what would you think of the person who came back and continued asking for it? You would think that they are a couple of rungs short of a ladder, wouldn't you? So, what is God going to think of you if you continued asking for something that He has already provided?

Actually, not only has He provided healing, Jesus has actually command us to heal the sick. Commanded US to heal the sick. This means if we ask God to heal, isn't He going to come back at us and say, "Do you know that I have commanded you to heal people, so why are you coming back and asking me to do something I have commanded you to do?"

Does Mark say "These signs shall follow those who believe, they shall lay hands on the sick and ask God to heal them"?

Or ,"These signs shall follow those who ask God for them...", etc.?

You know, one day someone is actually going to believe the Bible and have a healing revival....