Is Abortion Murder?

[Desk trauma]

Based on how Thomas has crafted his own opinions, I wouldn't be surprised if he was willing to reverse even Loving v Virginia, despite his own marriage.

It was conspicuous in its absence from his laundry list of other opinions that should be reviewed.

 

[RDKirk]

It was conspicuous in its absence from his laundry list of other opinions that should be reviewed.

Yes, that was noticeable.

 

[truefiction1]

The law is a false narrative and going by what it says is linguistic tricks. On down the rabbit hole we go.

No, on down the hell hole we go, as all lies lead only there.

 

[Desk trauma]

No, on down the hell hole we go, as all lies lead only there.

Empty threats are remarkably poor rebuttals.

 

[BobRyan]

Now you're playing the semantics game. You cannot argue that life begins at conception and then state that life really begins at three weeks

obviously a haploid cell is alive and a blastocyst with many diploid cells --- is "alive". But I don't see people "naming" a blastocyst or holding a funeral for a single cell when it happens to expire. Do you?

I regard the entire process as ordained by God, as His work and not the work of man. So I don't argue for toying around with it.

But in my view - something with a brain/arm/heart/ is very different than a single cell having none of the above. I have a lot of human "single cells" that die and fall off of my body every day. I hold no funerals for them. I do not "name" them.

 

[Blade]

Not sure, but since abortion is illegal now, would it then be considered murder? Or should it be perhaps?

People used to argue that abortion was *not* murder because fetuses had no "personhood"... I was wondering if that has changed now too.

Hey.. why not back up a bit and ask if contraceptives are sin. If God told us Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.”

Anything after that is sin no? Yet that word murder also to harm. God telling us to obey all mans laws praise God. Yet any thing any law that goes against Gods word...we do not follow. So because MAN says its ok.. yet God says its sin. To go forward we no longer can say we were blind but we still see so our sin remains.

 

[Tropical Wilds]

Not sure, but since abortion is illegal now, would it then be considered murder? Or should it be perhaps?

Abortion isn’t illegal (yet), the SC arbitrarily decided it wasn’t constitutionally protected anymore and the matter has reverted to the states. Some states had trigger laws that went into effect immediately, limiting or banning abortions. Others have enacted things in the time since. Legally speaking, if it’s murder or not depends on what the law says as written in the state it occurs in.

Morally, however, abortion remains basic medical care that should be between by pregnant persons and their doctors, not murder, and will remain that way. Because the morality of abortion care has not changed, there has been a surge of people working to form networks to facilitate travel and otherwise assist pregnant persons get to states that allow them equal access to reproductive care (including abortions).

 

[Disciple_mike]

Man's law governs the country as we are a republic, not a theocracy.

it doesn't matter - mans laws and the people who make them WILL stand before God and give account for doing so .

 

[Disciple_mike]

That is a rather long winded way to state it is not defined as such in the bible but simply the way you interpret the Bible. Your opinion is noted.

its clear as anything . your reading it having already decided you will refuse to see it . cant help you sorry

 

[Belk]

its clear as anything . your reading it having already decided you will refuse to see it . cant help you sorry

Let me know when you get your fellow Christians to agree with you.

 

[rturner76]

it doesn't matter - mans laws and the people who make them WILL stand before God and give account for doing so .

So.....We should drop the whole separation of church and state thing?

 

[DamianWarS]

Not sure, but since abortion is illegal now, would it then be considered murder? Or should it be perhaps?

People used to argue that abortion was *not* murder because fetuses had no "personhood"... I was wondering if that has changed now too.

in the case of Ohio, abortion becomes illegal after a heartbeat is detected at which point it's a felony. there is no language of murder or "personhood" in the law but I suspect this is more of a thought experiment on your part.

 

[o_mlly]

agreed - human beings have haploid cells and there is such a thing as a human haploid cell... but haploid cells are not humans.

That is why I find it hard to believe they would be trying to target regulation of the moment of fertilization/conception where two haploid cells are interacting.

All the parts, cellular or otherwise, of a human being are human cells. And, we already regulate the liberty to do with our cells what we will. The National Organ Transplant Act, which was passed in 1984, makes it illegal to sell or buy human organs and tissues in the United States. Selling organs and tissues is a crime and violators are subject to fines and imprisonment.

 

[Ken-1122]

Not sure, but since abortion is illegal now, would it then be considered murder? Or should it be perhaps?

Where is abortion illegal?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Where is abortion illegal?

Ohio?