Is 2012 the most critical year since the resurrection of Jesus?

[funkybunch52]

Well, if you don't want anybodys opinion that is contrary to your own, then you are just being a pundit. Personally, I don't think Obama is a bad person. There are people that make a lot of money trying to make our president look like the devil. If you believe that crap, you are probably not that smart anyway. 2012 is like any other year. You think Romney is a good person? He made millions bankrupting companies and employees. Very christian indeed. Let us not confuse christianity and capitalism. Nothing to do with each other. Vote your heart, but don't be suckered into the political fight. Obama is trying to get us out of a ditch that was made by republican policies of underregulation in our financial industries. Lets not pretend that he created the recession. That would be a lie and very unchristian indeed.

 

[rturner76]

Well, if you don't want anybodys opinion that is contrary to your own, then you are just being a pundit. Personally, I don't think Obama is a bad person. There are people that make a lot of money trying to make our president look like the devil. If you believe that crap, you are probably not that smart anyway. 2012 is like any other year. You think Romney is a good person? He made millions bankrupting companies and employees. Very christian indeed. Let us not confuse christianity and capitalism. Nothing to do with each other. Vote your heart, but don't be suckered into the political fight. Obama is trying to get us out of a ditch that was made by republican policies of underregulation in our financial industries. Lets not pretend that he created the recession. That would be a lie and very unchristian indeed.

BOOM-ping-ping, listen to the funky style that I bring-bring

 

[WilliamB]

Well, if you don't want anybodys opinion that is contrary to your own, then you are just being a pundit. Personally, I don't think Obama is a bad person. There are people that make a lot of money trying to make our president look like the devil. If you believe that crap, you are probably not that smart anyway. 2012 is like any other year. You think Romney is a good person? He made millions bankrupting companies and employees. Very christian indeed. Let us not confuse christianity and capitalism. Nothing to do with each other. Vote your heart, but don't be suckered into the political fight. Obama is trying to get us out of a ditch that was made by republican policies of underregulation in our financial industries. Lets not pretend that he created the recession. That would be a lie and very unchristian indeed.

"...and down goes Frazier!"

 

[IisJustMe]

***Note: If you are reading this and Not a Conservative Christian, please do not bother to give me your liberal opinion. Thank you.

Well, I'm a conservative Christian, but tell me: Why do you want to hear only from people who will tend to agree with you? Not that I do. I think the "fears" expressed by fearful Christians about Romney are somewhat like being afraid of a voodoo doll.

Personally, I don't think Obama is a bad person. There are people that make a lot of money trying to make our president look like the devil. If you believe that crap, you are probably not that smart anyway.

Really? Well, someone spent a lot of money and strong-armed a lot of people, and went to great lengths to hide his past before he was elected. Any other candidate (particularly a conservative), it would have been splashed all over the television, newspapers and websites that he once went by another name.This isn't the "birther" argument or the "fake social security number" argument. The truth is, he went by another name as a child. What if the media found out Mitt Romney or John McCain once went the by the names Howard Lipshitz and Ahmad Nidel? Really? You think that wouldn't spread all over the news like wildfire? The vetting of Obama was curtailed if not outright stifled.

The media, I don't believe, wasn't being sinister, just stupid. They wanted the story, "US elects first black prez" and they were so blinded by the romance of the story they ignored red flags all over the place. Now we have a man who is so in love with the liberal agenda he is blind to the fact it will bankrupt the treasury. He truthfully believes, I think, that he is the "savior" of the New Deal, the New Frontier and the Great Society all wrapped into one. The bitter truth liberals will not face is that regearing our defense and national security budgets to interior entitlement programs makes us, very quickly, a second-class country identical to France, Germany, Italy, Greece, et al. They ignore the fact that Great Britain is trying to backtrack from the abyss of rampant socialism but is too unbalanced and over the edge to escape collapse. That collapse is coming worldwide. When it does, the Rapture will occur, the antichrist will seize power and we as Christians won't have to worry about it anymore, as will be wed to the Lamb in heaven.

 

[Gentlemantech48]

Well, I'm a conservative Christian, but tell me: Why do you want to hear only from people who will tend to agree with you? Not that I do. I think the "fears" expressed by fearful Christians about Romney are somewhat like being afraid of a voodoo doll.Really? Well, someone spent a lot of money and strong-armed a lot of people, and went to great lengths to hide his past before he was elected. Any other candidate (particularly a conservative), it would have been splashed all over the television, newspapers and websites that he once went by another name.This isn't the "birther" argument or the "fake social security number" argument. The truth is, he went by another name as a child. What if the media found out Mitt Romney or John McCain once went the by the names Howard Lipshitz and Ahmad Nidel? Really? You think that wouldn't spread all over the news like wildfire? The vetting of Obama was curtailed if not outright stifled.

The media, I don't believe, wasn't being sinister, just stupid. They wanted the story, "US elects first black prez" and they were so blinded by the romance of the story they ignored red flags all over the place. Now we have a man who is so in love with the liberal agenda he is blind to the fact it will bankrupt the treasury. He truthfully believes, I think, that he is the "savior" of the New Deal, the New Frontier and the Great Society all wrapped into one. The bitter truth liberals will not face is that regearing our defense and national security budgets to interior entitlement programs makes us, very quickly, a second-class country identical to France, Germany, Italy, Greece, et al. They ignore the fact that Great Britain is trying to backtrack from the abyss of rampant socialism but is too unbalanced and over the edge to escape collapse. That collapse is coming worldwide. When it does, the Rapture will occur, the antichrist will seize power and we as Christians won't have to worry about it anymore, as will be wed to the Lamb in heaven.

I have discussed many things on this site with liberals but on issues like this it just seems to be an unending debate with no real meaning. There are just some things that I don't want to argue, I simply want to discuss. That's why I'm on the "Christian Conservatives" blog. If I want to argue issues I can always go to the "politics" blog.

The second part of this is a good example of why I sometimes don't want to argue with liberals. funkybunch52 said: "Obama is not a bad person"

If you have any discernment you will know that he has evil in his heart. I pray for Mr. Obama that his spiritual eyes and ears might be opened and that he come to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and that he find the Wisdom of God. In the mean time, God help this country survive a man like this! A nation who has turned its back on God deserves a man man like Obama. II Chronicles 7:14 - "if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land."

Conversley, if we will not humble ourselves, and pray and seek His face and turn from our wicked ways, then He will not hear from heaven and will not forgive our sin and will not heal our land.

 

[MrJim]

I have discussed many things on this site with liberals but on issues like this it just seems to be an unending debate with no real meaning. There are just some things that I don't want to argue, I simply want to discuss. That's why I'm on the "Christian Conservatives" blog. If I want to argue issues I can always go to the "politics" blog.

The second part of this is a good example of why I sometimes don't want to argue with liberals. funkybunch52 said: "Obama is not a bad person"

If you have any discernment you will know that he has evil in his heart. I pray for Mr. Obama that his spiritual eyes and ears might be opened and that he come to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and that he find the Wisdom of God. In the mean time, God help this country survive a man like this! A nation who has turned its back on God deserves a man man like Obama. II Chronicles 7:14 - "if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land."

Conversley, if we will not humble ourselves, and pray and seek His face and turn from our wicked ways, then He will not hear from heaven and will not forgive our sin and will not heal our land.

Do you think that word given under the old covenant to still applies? Maybe if the sentence is read in context and in its entirety it will make better sense:

2Chr 7:1 –2Chr 7:22 NKJV
When Solomon had finished praying, fire came down from heaven and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices; and the glory of the Lord filled the temple.
And the priests could not enter the house of the Lord, because the glory of the Lord had filled the Lord’S house. When all the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the Lord on the temple, they bowed their faces to the ground on the pavement, and worshiped and praised the Lord, saying:
“For He is good,
For His mercy endures forever.”
Then the king and all the people offered sacrifices before the Lord.
King Solomon offered a sacrifice of twenty-two thousand bulls and one hundred and twenty thousand sheep. So the king and all the people dedicated the house of God. And the priests attended to their services; the Levites also with instruments of the music of the Lord, which King David had made to praise the Lord, saying, “For His mercy endures forever,” whenever David offered praise by their ministry. The priests sounded trumpets opposite them, while all Israel stood.
Furthermore Solomon consecrated the middle of the court that was in front of the house of the Lord; for there he offered burnt offerings and the fat of the peace offerings, because the bronze altar which Solomon had made was not able to receive the burnt offerings, the grain offerings, and the fat.
At that time Solomon kept the feast seven days, and all Israel with him, a very great assembly from the entrance of Hamath to the Brook of Egypt.
And on the eighth day they held a sacred assembly, for they observed the dedication of the altar seven days, and the feast seven days. On the twenty-third day of the seventh month he sent the people away to their tents, joyful and glad of heart for the good that the Lord had done for David, for Solomon, and for His people Israel. Thus Solomon finished the house of the Lord and the king’s house; and Solomon successfully accomplished all that came into his heart to make in the house of the Lord and in his own house.
Then the Lord appeared to Solomon by night, and said to him: “I have heard your prayer, and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice.
When I shut up heaven and there is no rain, or command the locusts to devour the land, or send pestilence among My people, if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land. Now My eyes will be open and My ears attentive to prayer made in this place. For now I have chosen and sanctified this house, that My name may be there forever; and My eyes and My heart will be there perpetually. As for you, if you walk before Me as your father David walked, and do according to all that I have commanded you, and if you keep My statutes and My judgments, then I will establish the throne of your kingdom, as I covenanted with David your father, saying, ‘You shall not fail to have a man as ruler in Israel.’
“But if you turn away and forsake My statutes and My commandments which I have set before you, and go and serve other gods, and worship them,
then I will uproot them from My land which I have given them; and this house which I have sanctified for My name I will cast out of My sight, and will make it a proverb and a byword among all peoples.
“And as for this house, which is exalted, everyone who passes by it will be astonished and say, ‘Why has the Lord done thus to this land and this house?’
Then they will answer, ‘Because they forsook the Lord God of their fathers, who brought them out of the land of Egypt, and embraced other gods, and worshiped them and served them; therefore He has brought all this calamity on them.’”

So while a "nice" sentence fragment, when put into its proper perspective it does not apply to you or me or Christians in Kenya~it was for their time...in fact the ENTIRE SENTENCE isn't even used today when trying to Americanize it

When did the nation "turn its back on God"~~when was the "Golden Age of American Christendom"? When was the time "America" was "turned toward God"? I look back through 200+ years and objectively don't really see it...

 

[kql314]

I don't feel that this year, 2012, is the most important year since the resurrection. Highly unlikely. Yes, of most of those things on your list happen, then 2012 could be in the Top 5 or 10 years- maybe. But that is a big If.

If you read and review history I think there are many years that are more critical in overall society than 2012- whether or not Obama gets reelected, or if North Korea attacks South Korea, etc.

(and for the record I am not a big Obama fan...)

But, as others have said, there is a continuing gradual overall decline in society- as we near the Return.
God Bless.

 

[Blackwater Babe]

The TRUTH about 2012!

Giant Lego men with broken English on their shirts have been washing up on shores since 2007, first in Holland, and later in England.

Shortly after the English Lego man washed up, a Dutch artist named Ego Leonard began an art exhibition in London. "Ego Leonard" (Ego L., L. Ego, haha, get it) is a fake character who is purportedly a giant Lego man who makes art and talks in first person on his website about what it's like to wash up on shores.

Obviously, some artist created this character and makes art based on it, and dropping giant Lego men in the surf of his home country and the country he's exhibiting in makes sense as a publicity stunt.
But then in 2011, three years after the Lego man washed ashore in England, a new one washed ashore on Siesta Key Beach in Florida, which represents an entirely new level of logistical problem. If this is the same guy, how did he get "Ego Leonard" across the Atlantic? It's unlikely that he just pushed it into the ocean from Holland and it drifted across and found a shore somehow, so he would have had to ship it across, which seems like a pretty monumental task that's hard to do unnoticed.


And for what? Washing it ashore in or near Europe makes sense in order to boost publicity for his art, but nobody in Sarasota County, Florida, cares about some wacky Dutch artist. It seems like a lot of work for a pretty small payoff.

However, one really weird thing noted by a blogger was that the three locations were all points on the same diagonal line. If this Ego Leonard person is really nutty enough to be following a pattern like that, apparently we can expect the next Lego man to wash ashore on Puerto Vallarta in 2013.

Which means it'll be passing through the old Mayan territory of central Mexico during the predicted Mayan apocalypse of 2012. Coincidence?

 

[Albion]

You think Romney is a good person? He made millions bankrupting companies and employees. Very christian indeed. Let us not confuse christianity and capitalism.

I think you just did.

Obama is trying to get us out of a ditch that was made by republican policies of underregulation in our financial industries.

Some of them were Dem policies, don't forget, but the bigger point is that Obama didn't succeed in getting us squared away as he promised. There's nothing unusual in giving the boot to a failure and turning to someone better qualified

 

[IisJustMe]

Well, if you don't want anybodys opinion that is contrary to your own, then you are just being a pundit. Personally, I don't think Obama is a bad person. There are people that make a lot of money trying to make our president look like the devil. If you believe that crap, you are probably not that smart anyway. 2012 is like any other year. You think Romney is a good person? He made millions bankrupting companies and employees. Very christian indeed. Let us not confuse christianity and capitalism. Nothing to do with each other. Vote your heart, but don't be suckered into the political fight. Obama is trying to get us out of a ditch that was made by republican policies of underregulation in our financial industries. Lets not pretend that he created the recession. That would be a lie and very unchristian indeed.

You've obviously been spoon-fed that response by the people who don't want Romney elected. How about being intellectually honest and checking out alternative views?

A venture capitalist tells the truth about Romney, Bain and private equity | Fox News

Excerpt: For most people, ‘VC’ is still perceived as a black art; most headlines are dominated by the large successes. But small business is the engine of our economy. Engaging the hard-working, good people of this country, including out-of-work skilled workers, and sometimes skilled managers alike, is the key to our long-term prosperity.

The first step in what I can’t help but call the ‘reoccupation of America’ is to understand what has worked and how to direct the positive drivers of change. VC backed companies are a major source of employment and R&D. Did VC create sustainable, competitive jobs? You bet it did. Just think Skype, Google, Apple, Intel, Facebook, Microsoft, Starbucks, FedEx, Amazon, and eBay. They were all small businesses boosted into the big time by venture capitalists.

As venture capital’s founding father, Georges Doriot advised, “The study of a company is not an autopsy; it is the study of men’s hope and aspirations.” The industry’s beginning had a sense of mission and nobility. As professional coaches and capital allocators, our work is predicated on the free market’s selection of innovation -- the best product/service/technology with the best people should live, and those whose solutions don’t win sufficient customers and make money, will perish. The better the life/death decisions in funding allocations, the more and more highly skilled and sustainable jobs get created.

It is a tough and richly rewarding business that sometimes pays off. As with any profession endowed with the responsibility to make critical choices, with well reported stories of great wealth, there is the potential for resentment.

 

[Gentlemantech48]

I don't feel that this year, 2012, is the most important year since the resurrection. Highly unlikely. Yes, of most of those things on your list happen, then 2012 could be in the Top 5 or 10 years- maybe. But that is a big If.

If you read and review history I think there are many years that are more critical in overall society than 2012- whether or not Obama gets reelected, or if North Korea attacks South Korea, etc.

(and for the record I am not a big Obama fan...)

But, as others have said, there is a continuing gradual overall decline in society- as we near the Return.
God Bless.

Thank you for a reasonable answer to my question! I did not say the year 2012 WAS the most important year since the resurrection. I asked the question so that Conservative Christians could discuss it. I asked the same way I would have in a Sunday school class. I wouldn't expect everyone (or anyone) to agree with me, I would simply be starting a discussion for the class to ponder. God Bless you and thank you for a nice, simple answer! Many people like to argue, rather than discuss and they jump to conclusions.