Irreconcilable conflict

[shernren]

A common argument that TEs use is, "what motivation would God have to make the world look old?" And YECs will react by saying that this limits God to a box, trying to guess at reasons larger than we can fathom. But the way I see it, the flip side of this argument applies to YECism. In essence, the YEC argument boils down to, "what motivation would God have to use a myth when He could easily have told them literal truth, if evolution really happened?" This is also limiting God - in this case telling Him how He must communicate in human language.

This is not an indictment, but a statement of inevitable fact. God must be caged, rightly or not, in the boundaries of human logic, before He can be discussed according to that logic. (And where logic fails in mystical experience, even interpretation of Scripture must fail to the extent that it involves logic.) The difference is in which revelation we choose to cage God by. TEs will point to the "correct interpretation" of creation and ask why we must limit God's methods of communication through Scripture, while YECs will point to the "correct interpretation" of Scripture and ask why we must limit God's methods of communication through Creation.

Both must go hand-in-hand: and there is no preeminence between them, just like it is useless to ask "which of the members of the Trinity is more important?" Scripture illuminates Creation. What is less obvious is that Creation illuminates Scripture: for example, without knowing from Creation just how small a mustard seed is and just how big a mustard tree is, we cannot appreciate it when Scripture compares the growing and maturing of a mustard tree to the growing and maturing of the Kingdom of God. Scripture is written in the context of Creation for it describes God's relation to what He Created.

So it seems that YECism and TEism are flip-sides of the same coin. This is precisely why their conflict is irresolvable, until He comes.

Thoughts?

 

[Jig]

Well, it truely doesn't matter if the earth is young or old. Jesus and salvation is what truely matters.

 

[random_guy]

Well, it truely doesn't matter if the earth is young or old. Jesus and salvation is what truely matters.

I think this is one thing we call all agree on.

 

[Critias]

So it seems that YECism and TEism are flip-sides of the same coin. This is precisely why their conflict is irresolvable, until He comes.

Thoughts?

But, it will be a constant argument, a reason to hate one another, a reason to grasp onto one's pride and uplift it, to treat each other with hate, disrespect, name calling and many other childish behaviors.

It has all been demonstrated here, by each of us, including me. Makes me ashamed of myself.

 

[random_guy]

But, it will be a constant argument, a reason to hate one another, a reason to grasp onto one's pride and uplift it, to treat each other with hate, disrespect, name calling and many other childish behaviors.

It has all been demonstrated here, by each of us, including me. Makes me ashamed of myself.

Well, I think the problem is YECists want their beliefs to be on equal grounds as science, and as such, they try to get their beliefs in school.

I have no problems whether someone is a YECist or not, but I do have problems with pseudoscience causing America to lose its power in the world by erroding science.

 

[Critias]

Well, I think the problem is YECists want their beliefs to be on equal grounds as science, and as such, they try to get their beliefs in school.

I have no problems whether someone is a YECist or not, but I do have problems with pseudoscience causing America to lose its power in the world by erroding science.

Personally, I am not concerned with America's power in the world.