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Iran...are they next???

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King of the nations said:
The election of the yahoo in Iran was bought and paid for by CIA. That may seem to some to be an audacious statement to make but I'm telling you...
It does seem audacious since you haven't supported it with any facts...

Pray, pray, pray, dear friends, that no war on Iran be launched, and protest the idea in any way you can and be ready for all kinds of manufactured claims about Iran being a national security threat. The CIA will provide you with all the "proof" you need, even as the Titanic takes a direct hit and begins taking on water...
This I can agree with. Didn't Cheney recently tell us that Iraq's insurgency was in its "last throes"? Who is he trying to fool?

Our world is still much too dependant on oil to exist (not just in the form of gasoline, for example, but also plastic and other "essentials") and, demand, therefore, is expected to overcome supply in just another year to four years.
I agree that we are very dependent on oil, but could you provide some statistics that say demand will overcome supply in the next few years?
 
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Jay2004 said:

Iran is the country who supplying the Iraq insurgents.


Like I said to IP, don't be so sure...

If the US was to attack Iran, I would not blame them. All the 3rd world countries and liberals in Europe and Canada would be against it. (Just like they protested the war on Iraq)

You know, sometimes God works in mysterious ways and I believe this was one of them. I shared your sentiments on this until I started investigating 9/11 and subsequent events more closely...

www.copvica.com

Greg

 
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I dont think you jest, Greg, I think you're theories are beyond the reach of rational thought. I guess you just are an example of what my uncle always says..."common sence isnt so common anymore."

Seriously, if the government had wanted Iraqi oil, they could have gotten it by making some phone calls and lifting the scantions (I cant spell it, sorry). Thats it. If all they wanted was oil, there would have been no need for a war.

The fact is, the Iraqi people want freedom. Most of the terrorists arent from Iraq, they are smuggled in from other places.

One of the reasons I supported the war when it began (and one of the reasons I still do) is that the way Saddam ran his country reminds me so much of the practices in Italy that were so much of the reason my great-grandma left. So, personally, I understand a bit of what that is all like...and I dont think we should just sit here and keep freedom all to ourselves. We might not be able to fix everything in every country, but we have made a huge diffrence in Iraq. Hopefully, other countries will come to want what Iraq has gained.

I think most Americans have a lot to learn from the Iraqi national guard and police people who risk their lives everyday for their freedom. We havent had to fight on our homeland in generations. yes, we have been attacked, but we havent had a full war here. They have, and they do. And they handle it well and they keep fighting because they know that even if they lose their lives that it wont be in vain. One of the slogans in the American Revolution was "give me liberty or give me death," and I think it is really the Iraqis who show the value in this.
 
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I honestly think Greg wants attention more than anything. I mean...his comments are cryptic and they are written to make you think he actually knows something about things. "Don't be so sure."

Sorry, but I will trust the government before I trust some dude online without sources. Anyone can come up with anything thing online, and the site www.lennonmurdertruth.com is just proof of that. It isnt true...but a select number of people believe it.

What people dont understand is...just because something is possible doesnt mean it happened. It is possible, in theory, that I am adopted and that my entire family is hiding it from me. Yes, I look like my family, but maybe they all had plastic surgery, no? yay, I made my first conspiracy theory.

So, is it possible that the government faked everything? Yes, but the most likely didnt. I would bet over 99% that they didnt. It is also possible that someone might believe that the president hides bigfoot out at camp david, but it isnt true...
 
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Scholar in training said:
It does seem audacious since you haven't supported it with any facts...

I'll reply to this in my next post to Rosie.

This I can agree with. Didn't Cheney recently tell us that Iraq's insurgency was in its "last throes"? Who is he trying to fool?

Aptly put...

I agree that we are very dependent on oil, but could you provide some statistics that say demand will overcome supply in the next few years?

"Peak oil" as its commonly known is beginning to pop up all over the place like a nasty crack in a dam that just keeps growing and splitting more and more and more...

Seattle Times, Los Angeles Times, New York Times, etc. are all beginning to report on it now.

See this page for a large handful of independent reports on the subject:

http://www.copvcia.com/free/ww3/index.shtml#oil

Greg
 
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Hi Rosie,

:wave:

Yes. Guilty. I'm just a gruby little attention monger that likes posting stuff on bigfoot and UFO's and government conspiracies for kicks because I enjoy having folks like yourself tell me I'm stupid...

;)

Actually!....If you really honestly want resources, I can give them to you. The reason I haven't exactly provided a "plethora" as of yet is because after more than a decade of discussing all kids of different things with people, I've noticed that there are certain things about which one can post "sources" and proof until they are blue in the face, and still the antagonist insists that they're wrong. A multiplication of sources does not proof make.

I fully realize that the things I am saying outright and that I am hinting at are pretty..."dramatic"...Just a few years ago, I probably would have responded to the claims I am making in a similar way that you are responding now...(Though, not quite so...err..."personally"...). But anyway...

If you really want to know, I would suggest the website that I already posted: www.copvica.com and the book "Crossing the Rubicon" by Mike Ruppert. Both are just one of many resources on the subject(s). These just happen to be the best ones that I know of.

The book and website are by the same man who presents a very disturbing picture of our federal government (not as a whole, but certain compartments therein), but one that is also backed up by verifiable fact.

God bless you in your search for the truth,

Greg
 
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skatepixie said:
Seriously, if the government had wanted Iraqi oil, they could have gotten it by making some phone calls and lifting the scantions (I cant spell it, sorry). Thats it. If all they wanted was oil, there would have been no need for a war.


Really? How would that have looked? Let's put sanctions in place against Iraq under the auspices of human rights violations et al....But then if we need any oil from them, we'll just umm....conveniently forget about those violations and hope the rest of the world doesn't notice the extreme hypocrisy?

The fact is, the Iraqi people want freedom. Most of the terrorists arent from Iraq, they are smuggled in from other places.


No argument here....

One of the reasons I supported the war when it began (and one of the reasons I still do) is that the way Saddam ran his country reminds me so much of the practices in Italy that were so much of the reason my great-grandma left. So, personally, I understand a bit of what that is all like...and I dont think we should just sit here and keep freedom all to ourselves. We might not be able to fix everything in every country, but we have made a huge diffrence in Iraq. Hopefully, other countries will come to want what Iraq has gained.



And where does it end? go to war with every country that, in our estimation, doesn't grant its citizens a sufficient amount of freedom?


There is no arguing that that Saddam Hussein needed to be removed from power and that the country, at least in the long run, is better off with him gone. However...The ends do not always justify the means. This is one perfect example. Arm and train Iraqi citizens to do thier own fighting against Saddam? Yes. That, as far I know, would be a perfectly acceptable way for the U.S. (or any country) to promote freedom. Let's the citizens of any given country handle their own affairs themselves. Going in and doing the job ourselves is a pretty drastic overreach and one that would seem to wrench open Pandora's box.

Greg
 
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I am some polemical but I think that more than attacking Iran, we have to research the petroleum substitution and boycotting all the islamic countries, building a steel wall, because I am tired of wasting lifes for these people, now, now only we have terrorism, extremism and in many western countries parasitism financied by Saudi Arabia and Iran, the two kingdoms of evil. And what about Pakistan? The people who doesn´t want to be islamic, they can emigrate to Europe but not for economical reasons, and if they lie us, and they commit crimes, they have to be removed. Why we have to stand everything, and they don´t have churches nor in Morocco, Saudi Arabia or other countries, why this protestant brother converted from Islam in Iran, has to be executed and none said nothing.
I am tired of all of this, steel war, and is ready.
 
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skatepixie said:
I honestly think Greg wants attention more than anything. I mean...his comments are cryptic and they are written to make you think he actually knows something about things. "Don't be so sure."

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That's pretty harsh and directly insulting. I may not believe it either but jeesh.
 
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King of the Nations said:
:sigh:

There are certain questions you just really want to be careful about asking because sometimes you end up getting a response to them...;)



There are things the public doesn't know for much more nefarious reasons as well...

Yes, I think Iran may indeed be next and this is something that we really need to pray about, peeps. Things in the international (and national) world of politics are often not as they seem. Feel free to call me a conspiracy theorist if you will, but I've seen too much to trust that this election was anything but the work of the CIA. That may sound absolutely absurd at first, but when you come to understand how the CIA operates...

To put it very simply, if you're not yet aware of the fact, the world is running out of oil....Like, as in.....No more. Period. End of story.....Not "temporarily out of order", permanently and irrevokably dry. The best estimates are that we will run completely dry in another three or four decades.

That may at first seem like plenty of time to prepare and to switch over to other types of energy, but it isn't. The situation is far more dramatic than that insofar as long before that time when the wells run dry, estimates are anywhere from another year to four years from now, world demand for oil will excede production. The world will require more oil than it is capable of producing....

Stop and munch on that for just a moment....

In the meantime, guess who needs desparately to go around and secure the world's remaining oil resources, the majority of which are in the Middle East, so that, as other countries begin to experience more and more brown and black outs and eventually run out of power altogether, she can continue to operate smoothly???........But, of course, the United States of America, righteous entity that it is, can't just go around taking over countries to ensure its own continued oil flow "just because". That would be rather "barbaric", not to mention counter-productive to national security for reasons that should be obvious. So, instead, we need a plan....What to do? What to do?....Hmmmm...I know! Let's create something called "radical Islam" and sponsor a bunch of folks to launch direct attacks and make threats toward the U.S.. Then who could blame us for wanting to go in and turn these places into parking lots for our armored vehicles, huh? ;)

The election of the yahoo in Iran was bought and paid for by CIA. That may seem to some to be an audacious statement to make but I'm telling you...

Suffice it to say that at least on a spiritual level, the invasion of Iraq was a bad idea. Any invasion of Iran would be disastrous. If we do go in to Iran, look for a large asymmetric response and, I would be willing to bet, even direct military intervention on the part of Russia and China.

Pray, pray, pray, dear friends, that no war on Iran be launched, and protest the idea in any way you can and be ready for all kinds of manufactured claims about Iran being a national security threat. The CIA will provide you with all the "proof" you need, even as the Titanic takes a direct hit and begins taking on water...

:(

Anyone still wondering if and why Our Lady has been appearing in Medjugorje for the past 24 years telling us to prepare???

Greg

Good post! :thumbsup:
 
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