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[Joe67]

Joe,

Thanks for sharing your story. It was very brave and I admire you for being so transparent.

I was a good SDA (at least on the outside) until well into my 30s. At that point, my brother-in-law left the SDA denomination. I began studying in earnest to try and demonstrate that SDAism had the truth. However, as I began reading the Bible through (each passage in its full context), I began to realize that there were passages I had never before read because they weren't listed in a Sabbath School quarterly. I began to realize that there were passages that I had read that took on a whole new meaning when read within the full context of the passage. As I read, I was not able to defend SDAism in the way that I had hoped. Through a long process, I have reached the point where I am today -- I now realize how much I do not know.

BFA

BFA,

Truly the Lord is leading us all by the same long winding road to the promised land. There is a 9 day short cut along the coast. But his cloud led us this way.

The Lord began to give me this present conflicted state of mind at about age 55.

This witness through Paul is now a consolation to me in Christ Jesus.

Phil 1:29-30
29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

30 Having the same conflict which ye saw in me, and now hear to be in me.
KJV

This testimony through Paul brought me torment in my earlier days.

Joe

 

[Joe67]

The following Scripture is the full Sabbath rest for the people of God. This is when we rest from our own labors and our works do follow us. It is the fulfilling of the law through the spirit of meekness. This is the judgment of God in us whereby the prince of this world is judged and fully cast out of our hearts and minds (spirit). He is not fully cast out of our inward parts as faith is initialized. First the stalk, then the ear, then the full corn in the ear. Faith, then entrance into grace, then tribulation. Romans 5:1-5.

Gal 6:1
:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. KJV

This is the law of Christ, that we bear one another's burden ( which includes those who curse us and/or despitefully use us. Thus we are not without law to God, but we are under the law to Christ.

When we think we are something then we cannot enter into this rest and we fall back into seeking our own acceptance with God ( we need acceptance with God, but acceptance alone comes short of the fulfillment of grace in serving the family of Jesus ) and/or happiness in this world as the fulfillment of God's purpose.

Indifference/apathy is not the antidote for excessive zeal through either faith and/or the law. Excessive faith is made manifest in being wise in our conceits. Excessive zeal through the law is fairly apparent to many.

The burden we have for the welfare of our own biological/legal families through the law of heredity that is upon all people, is an object lesson of the burden that we are given, under grace, for the believer's in the Lord Jesus. There is a different quality of burden upon us for the human needs of man that is not of our group. This burden is measured.

Col 1:24
24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church: KJV

Gal 6:17-18
17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen. KJV

Joe