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I'm always fascinated when an atheist in particular can be comfortable with the idea that cosmological processes will forever be an act of faith on the part of the believer. Typically all the while they tend to lack belief in God based on empirical arguments. Fascinating.
Those processes won't be a matter of faith. I have no problems with scientists comparing their models to observations of the universe.
God has no evidence and has no empirical arguments.
Quite.GOD IS the greatest Empiricist!
Yes, sadly the 2012 scenario really does make sense. A lot of sense. The solid iron core would soak up many of the several nonillions (10^30) of solar neutrinos that pass through about 4 cm^2 every second. The thing about neutrinos is that they undergo spontaneous flavor oscillation - changing from heavier neutrinos to lighter neutrinos and vice versa. This is a weak force, and since the core of the earth is like the surface of a sun, it undergoes nuclear reactions also. The problem with the 2012 theory is it is particularly quiet on how the core would boil, causing magnetic field failure. I think because the how is scarier.
IF the core of the earth retains sufficient neutrinos (pounds of them are needed), then they will most likely act like STRANGLETS, transmutating matter on a sub-atomic level. This could be worse than the core boiling, because we may not dealing with iron anymore, but yet some goop of an element. Now, that requires many neutrinos, and even though we get nonillions from the sun per square centimeters every second, and even though reactors and natural radioactive decay provides even more, i dont think we have enough to cause the problem of 2012. But i guarentee truth is stranger than fiction, and i believe the real 2012 is weirder. Have you ever seen The Fifth Element?
Yes, sadly the 2012 scenario really does make sense. A lot of sense. The solid iron core would soak up many of the several nonillions (10^30) of solar neutrinos that pass through about 4 cm^2 every second. The thing about neutrinos is that they undergo spontaneous flavor oscillation - changing from heavier neutrinos to lighter neutrinos and vice versa. This is a weak force, and since the core of the earth is like the surface of a sun, it undergoes nuclear reactions also. The problem with the 2012 theory is it is particularly quiet on how the core would boil, causing magnetic field failure. I think because the how is scarier.
IF the core of the earth retains sufficient neutrinos (pounds of them are needed), then they will most likely act like STRANGLETS, transmutating matter on a sub-atomic level. This could be worse than the core boiling, because we may not dealing with iron anymore, but yet some goop of an element. Now, that requires many neutrinos, and even though we get nonillions from the sun per square centimeters every second, and even though reactors and natural radioactive decay provides even more, i dont think we have enough to cause the problem of 2012. But i guarentee truth is stranger than fiction, and i believe the real 2012 is weirder. Have you ever seen The Fifth Element?
Those processes won't be a matter of faith.
When they start stuffing their "models" full of "dark" magic, I start to complain. It's not physics anymore, it's MATHEMATICAL MYTHOS. You might as well be claiming "God matter" did it since you can't even tell me where to get some "dark matter" to play with in real empirical experimentation.I have no problems with scientists comparing their models to observations of the universe.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7440288/God has no evidence and has no empirical arguments.
"Religions" never require "empirical verification" in the lab or even successful testing based on pure observation. Religions, like faith in dark matter and invisible energies are never based upon empirical laboratory testing, but rather they are merely acts of faith on the part of the "believer".A team using the MPG/ESO 2.2-metre telescope at ESO’s La Silla Observatory, along with other telescopes, has mapped the motions of more than 400 stars up to 13 000 light-years from the Sun. From this new data they have calculated the mass of material in the vicinity of the Sun, in a volume four times larger than ever considered before.
“The amount of mass that we derive matches very well with what we see — stars, dust and gas — in the region around the Sun,” says team leader Christian Moni Bidin (Departamento de Astronomía, Universidad de Concepción, Chile). “But this leaves no room for the extra material — dark matter — that we were expecting. Our calculations show that it should have shown up very clearly in our measurements. But it was just not there!”
Dark matter is a mysterious substance that cannot be seen, but shows itself by its gravitational attraction for the material around it. This extra ingredient in the cosmos was originally suggested to explain why the outer parts of galaxies, including our own Milky Way, rotated so quickly, but dark matter now also forms an essential component of theories of how galaxies formed and evolved.
Today it is widely accepted that this dark component constitutes about the 80% of the mass in the Universe [1], despite the fact that it has resisted all attempts to clarify its nature, which remains obscure. All attempts so far to detect dark matter in laboratories on Earth have failed.
I love it when religious people try to attack science as being merely faith, like religion. When you're entire argument is "You're just as silly as we are!" it might be time to rethink your position.
But my cosmology beliefs are NOTHING like mainstream beliefs. They are beliefs that put EMPIRICAL FACT before "faith in the unseen" (in the lab). Nothing I believe in is beyond empirical validation in controlled experimentation, if not now, at some point. That's nothing like believing in dark stuff that has no material affect on anything on Earth.
The same methods that are used to describe the nature of the cosmos were used to discover dark matter.
If you believe in anything in cosmology then you should accept that dark matter has real effects. I forget, why exactly are you so upset about dark matter?
edit: It's also impossible to know in advance what theories can and cannot be tested in the lab, so you don't have enough information to discount dark matter simply because you don't think it can ever be tested.
Please share some of your falsifiable beliefs about God.
"exotic" matter
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