A. believer said:
I don't have any idea what you're referring to when you say that it's been done.
The rise of democracies over the last 250 years.
Advances in racial and gender equality in the US.
The rise of a fascist state in Germany between the two World Wars
All examples of an initially small, powerless voice persuading others to
see things its way.
A. believer said:
Your response indicates that you don't understand my point.
I understand the point you're trying to make, but the situation you described
doesn't matter, since the net result you predict has already come about,
without your supposed "end of the world" results. Euthanasia, and based on
your scenario, eugenics, has not brought about doomsday, literal or figurative,
since no one who advocates it is mandating it for everyone. They're asking
that it be an option. And look, when some of those options are available,
such as abortion, society still chugged on.
A. believer said:
Everything one accepts as a presuppositional truth is "a matter of faith" in the context in which you're using the term. My presuppositional belief (or my faith in the idea) that man is fallen, though, has rational support. Your presuppositional belief (or your faith in the idea) that he isn't does not.
What do you mean by "rational support?" The Bible, whose authority is
dependent on religious belief, states that Man fell from grace. Various
flavors of Christianity range from Man being redeemable from inherent sin
through sacraments and not sinning any more, to Man constantly being in a
state of sin. Other religions state that Man just "is." Not "good," not "bad,"
just "is." Science's view of Man is that He's a living organism, made of
of water and calcium and iron and carbon, with autonomic functions and a
need to consume foodstuffs, similar to any other mammal.
What do you mean by "rational support?"