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Interacial Marriage

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mdolls68 said:
Tonya & Mr. Cheese,

It's a good thing you are not the parents of my children then because they probably would grow up with low self-esteems. I suppose if you had children you do not want them to become Christians, because the Bible guarantees they will suffer for the cause of Christ.

Jenna, Jenptcfan, Mina,

Thank you for your posts.

I would like to add that I grew up in Arizona in a small town. It was predominantly white. My family was 1 of 2 Chinese families in this small town. I and my siblings were all Valedictorian of our graduating High School classes, I being the first. Both my parents are 100% Chinese. My parents taught us to be very service oriented, give back to the community. When I graduated at the top of my class with above a 4.0 GPA, I received not 1 scholarship from my community. Yet, nationally & in Arizona I was recognized for being a high achiever and an All American Girl. My own community where I spent my first 18 yrs of my life, having given so much to our community didn't give me 1 penny. They said the reason why I didn't get any scholarships was because my parents were married. #3 graduating his parents were married. After that excuse didn't work, they said my parents could afford to send me to college. My parents didn't pay for my college. I did or whatever scholarships I got would pay my way.

The reason why I didn't get any scholarships was because most of the white community I lived in were prejudice against Chinese people. They hated to see these Chinese kids excel above their own children. So, the argument against interracial...here? I wasn't interracial, yet I suffered. If you're narrow-minded and bigotted, it doesn't matter. You don't like anyone different than you, interracial or not.

Mr. Cheese & Tonya....you are certainly entitled to your opinion....However. It's a good thing that God is no respector of persons. He loves ALL PEOPLE...regardless. Jesus died for everyone, and if anyone suffered, it was Christ.
Obviously..you need to reread my post..I never said I was prejudice..I was just showing an example of how SOME people can be prejudice..I apologize if it was taken the wrong way..In my post I said I had friends of different races..good ones at that..my family did not raise me to be prejudice,,UNFORTUNATLEY i grew up in the SOUTH where racvial pressures run high..but I can nor help that!
 
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Tonya,

Yes, I did read those other things that you wrote, but I did read something else that people should consider not having interracial marriages because of potential bigotry/prejudice/hardship. Life itself is hard period. Being a Christian is way harder. Serving and living a Christlike life is incredibly difficult in this world. But, I would never tell a person to not consider accepting Christ as their Savior. That would be nuts.

Christians should do what God wants them to do. I truly believe & prayed for my husband well before I knew him...over 20 yrs before meeting him. It didn't matter what others thought. Yes, I know you were expressing an opinion...as well as I. I want to teach my children despite hardships, prejudices, difficulties, challenges....if God wants you in that direction, go for it with no doubts...whether the world is for or against you...most likely they'll be against you.

It is people who have been courageous throughout time...the ones that faced opposition to overcome lies...to stand up for truth....that we admire. That courage, for me, comes from Christ. It's hard to take a stand, because it means risk.

~Doris
 
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desi said:
No, but the children of such a union often pay the price.
I think you are right in many cases. In more conservative areas, children do get a hard time. Even marriages between whites and Hispanics, which usually isn't considered a big deal, is a big deal in some areas of the Midwest, whereas in California and Texas it happens alot. As it happens more often, hopefully it won't be a big deal anywhere.

However, some of the most beautiful children I have seen are interracial babies.
 
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I don't see what's wrong with interracial dating/marriage either. At least here in the US, it's already like a melting-pot society anyway. One of my friends always tells me that "you just don't know who you are looking at."

I dated two guys who were outside my own race. I enjoyed it so much because I can learn a lot of new things/experiences from his culture and I can share my culture to him as well. It is very cool. I hope someday to have an interracial marriage myself but it's up to God whoever He'll have for me.

I totally agree that children of interracial marriage are so unique and beautiful! In addition, it would be neat if both parents speak different languages other than English so that they are able to train their kids to speak their mother languages. Then they will be trilingual. How cool is that? :)
 
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totally OK (the original QP) ;)

and about the genetic thing, you never know what hand you are going to get dealt, its like rolling the dice... thats the chance you take, so unless you trace your roots all the way back..and guarantee that everyone is the same, you may get a toss-up there. For instance, my husbands family, who are italian, (they all have dark hair, skin, eyes, etc.) and my husband is blond hair and blue eyed, with a pale complexin (german roots) his brother is blond hair and blue eyed with a not so pale complexion, and his sister is dark hair/eyes/skin. :D then add me, spanish/italian, and we have an olive skinned green eyed daughter with light hair, and a lighter skinned, browned eyed boy with darker hair. GO FIGURE! **lol**

how's that kid song go... Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world, red and yellow black and white they are precious in his sight, Jesus loves the little children of the WORLD!!!

It wouldnt have mattered to me if the man God has picked out for me had been any color, he would have been perfect!or if the children we had had been born any color with any abnormality, they would have been perfect! it' just UP TO HIM! :clap: I like that we're all different... makes us special,.... God made us all in his image... I don't doubt that maybe God's interracial? **giggles** ;)
 
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desi said:
No, but the children of such a union often pay the price.
Yes I agree.

But I feel interacial marriage is not a sin...nothing is wrong with it. We are all humans...we are not responsible for our race....nobody should hold that against anybody. I must say when I lived in Isreal and I went to an Jewish school...I never got picked on for being mixed. My mother was Jewish and my father was Black/Indian. My skin was the complexion of a white person that has a good tan...very olive. I was accepted by the Jewish kids. But then I moved to the US at the age of 11 or 12 and my brother got picked on. They picked on him because He had a "white" sister...it was only the White kids. My brother is fully Black and he is my father's child, not my mothers. I never got picked on because of my mix race...I usually hung out with the Black kids and they always treated me like I was one of them instead of an mix person.
 
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"Race" is such a volatile word and concept. How is marrying another human being a sin as long as you love them and you are both Christians who are serious about each other and your faith? It is only sinning if one person was to be a Satanic-worshipper who believed in sacrificing babies, you get what I mean. The only concrete things that seemingly separate us are our ethnic backgrounds and phenotypes.

I have heard many things against interracial marriage. Such as "when you marry someone, you also marry their family" NOT! As the Bible says, when you marry a man (or woman) leaves his family to cleave with another being. That means you completely separate from your family unit to join with another and form your OWN family. How is that in any way marrying siblings, parents, grandparents, and cousins? True, your family is your family but as an adult, married, with their own family you have to right and choices to decide how often you see your parents and siblings.

The only way culture/ethnicity/race can get in the way of a union is if you ALLOW it to become a problem. I think that is what many people are worried about.

Now about looks, people in general are superficial so that is no surprise. Kids are made fun of no matter what, and that is true in any case. But what you have to teach them is what matters is in the insideand educate them about how we are all creations from God. I don't see any other way.
 
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Browneyes84 said:
The only way culture/ethnicity/race can get in the way of a union is if you ALLOW it to become a problem.
:amen:

I am in an interracial relationship, and I have heard the "children suffer" speech before. In fact, I know that my boyfriend's father (who is a pastor) believes this to an extent. I think problems can arise and that the children may face some difficulties early on(ie: identity-which group do I fit into?, who do I look like?) but not much more than any other child.

It was interesting to see everyone else's view on this. :)
 
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In another thread that I started, I asked what does God have to say about race. God doesn't care, but PEOPLE do. Humanity cannot help but point out what is different about ourselves, and to the extent which we make that become a problem. So my conclusion is-- marry a good Christian because in the end it won't matter WHAT color your skin was, it'll only matter what you did and how you believed.
 
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desi said:
No, but the children of such a union often pay the price.
I hate when this is said regarding interracial marriage. Children are always a blessing from God. The ultimate price would be to never be born because the parents were afraid to marry their soulmate and follow God's plan for their life.
The number one thing that parents can do for their children is to love eachother. Being in the perfect will of the Lord is an awesome place to be. Children in such a home are incredibly blessed. if God's destiny for a couple is together andthat destiny culminates in a child , then that child is not suffering loss at all. That child is accomplishing the destiny which God planned for them before the world was created.
 
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Interesting thread :thumbsup:

No one has said it is a sin, so there is no need beating that drum.

To those that cautioned regarding suffering of the children; I would say to them that this very attitude of caution (in some cases fear), does not help create the environment that such a child would not suffer in.

Regarding genes, my baby sister (okay, she's 24) would be more qualified to speak about it, so I will avoid making a fool out of myself. However, I saw a picture once of 3 children of the same parents; first was a girl with dirty blonde hair, and blue eyes, the second a boy dark hair dark eyes and the last a girl, Her's was hazel or so, with lighter brown hair. My reaction was just to be in awe at the beauty and diversity that could all be in one family. Our God is God. :bow:
 
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No, but the children of such a union often pay the price.
Yitzchak said:
I hate when this is said regarding interracial marriage. Children are always a blessing from God. The ultimate price would be to never be born because the parents were afraid to marry their soulmate and follow God's plan for their life.
The number one thing that parents can do for their children is to love eachother. Being in the perfect will of the Lord is an awesome place to be. Children in such a home are incredibly blessed. if God's destiny for a couple is together andthat destiny culminates in a child , then that child is not suffering loss at all. That child is accomplishing the destiny which God planned for them before the world was created.
I am in complete agreement with that one Yitzchak. Being a young Christian will be hard on children in school but do we hesitate in helping to bring them to Christ? Absolutely not praise the Lord.

Anyone born on this earth is going to "pay the price" at some point for something that some cruel person is going to say or do to them because they don't like something in particular about them. I've heard caucasians talk about other caucasians because they didn't tan and were pale. I've also heard other African Americans speak harshly of other African Americans because they were dark. See my point.

It's all about teaching our children to learn to love themselves and KNOW that the Lord made NO mistake when He created them. :amen:
 
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Jenna said:
I have never come across any couple with varying skin colors that has two vastly different looking children. To the best of my knowledge, it doesn't work like that.


actually jenna, my family is an example... my father is african american. my mother is european american. when i was born, both sides questioned that my mother was faithful. the only trait that resembled in any way whatsoever african american was my curly hair. my sister michelle was born 1 1/2 years later, and she looks african american. she has my dad's face. she has wiry black thick hair.

my sister andi was next, 5 years after michelle, and she has curly blond hair. she has green eyes. her skin is tan--mine burns burns burns. but you know she is my daddy's cuz her face looks just like him. she can't deny it if she begged and prayed.

so, when my sister andi was born w/blond to copper hair, w/green eyes, my dad went to my grandpa, and found out on his mom's side, 3 generations down, they were creole...
i have geneology pictures, of my great grandpa w/two children. 1 male who looks african american. and one female who looks european american. you couldn't tell they were full-blooded siblings, just like w/my sister michelle. she is my full blooded sibling. and people never know, unless we tell them... when you stand andi in between us, then you see the link. she looks like me. she looks like michelle. all my daddy's children (5 of them) are left handed but michelle.

just a note. and while i am at it?? that statement about "bad on children?"... well, if i want to be bitter and angry?? sure, i can say that. but if i want to talk about how proud i am of my heritage?? what it represents--my ancestors fighting their way to freedom, taking help and assistance from others to meet their dreams, believing in a future and a hope?? well, i like that part. and i like the part, where i believe that God gave me my looks to help me w/my wisdom and knowledge, and discernment of people. i learned two types of racism: hatred and ignorance. and i learned the traits of both. i am very proud of how God made me, and the many diverse cultures my families represent. i am proud God made me innerracial. :)
 
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