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Intelligent Design's research impact on science

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Evolution has appropriated anatomy study and dragged it into their camp. I'm dragging it back into the public library. With exception of a few carefully placed words here and there that claim evolution anatomy studies are simply descriptions of how organisms and organs work; they are largely evolution/creation neutral. You have no exclusive right to call them your own or use them to support your views.
 
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Let's see: It's so obvious that life on Earth is the result of natural processes with no intelligent or supernatural intervention whatsoever.

Feel convinced yet?

I never said that you weren't convinced.
 
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I never said that you weren't convinced.

Let's try this again:

If I said to you, "It's so obvious that life on Earth is the result of natural processes with no intelligent or supernatural intervention whatsoever."

Do you think this is a convincing argument?
 
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Let's try this again:

If I said to you, "It's so obvious that life on Earth is the result of natural processes with no intelligent or supernatural intervention whatsoever."

Do you think this is a convincing argument?

Of course not, because it isn't obvious.
 
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Any and all evidence may be used to support any argument. The quality of the evidence and its aptness for the argument determine whether or not that support is sound, or ill-conceived.

On that basis anatomy directly and clearly supports evolution from a common ancestor. As support for creation, anatomy is at best neutral and your attempt to upgrade its support with your ridiculous Argument form Obviousness does you as much credit as passing wind in the presence of the Queen.
 
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Since we all agree that Argument from Obviousness is unconvincing, shall we agree not to use it in future?

Only if you stop using evolution.
 
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An atheist has to believe in evolution; club rules. Believers have no such requirement.
Wrong again. As an atheist, I’m free to accept what’s reasonable. I have no personal investment in ToE. It’s simply the best explanation. I consider ToE like you might consider gravity - our current understanding works to explain both.
 
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That's not trolling.
It is in my opinion.
I'm holding out for more research.
Weird how your original stance on that was very different. I guess you are also holding out for more research on whether 'Intelligent Design' has merit, too...
 
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An atheist has to believe in evolution; club rules. Believers have no such requirement.
A mere Believer like you does in fact have such a requirement - I suppose we can add "disingenuous" to your list of character traits.
 
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It is in my opinion.

Which you are entitled to.

Weird how your original stance on that was very different. I guess you are also holding out for more research on whether 'Intelligent Design' has merit, too

Imo the jury found in favor of ID.
 
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A mere Believer like you does in fact have such a requirement - I suppose we can add "disingenuous" to your list of character traits.

Belief defines a believer, it's true.
 
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