Intelligent Design Is Only Theorized

[Loudmouth]

As a matter of public policy, Discovery Institute opposes any effort to require the teaching of intelligent design by school districts or state boards of education.

They are only saying that after they had their hats handed to them in a court of law.

This is lifted from the Wedge Document:

Just to stress, "pursue possible legal assistance in response to resistance to the integration of designer theory into public school science curricula.

Attempts to mandate teaching about intelligent design only politicize the theory and will hinder fair and open discussion of the merits of the theory among scholars and within the scientific community.

There is no ID theory, no one is working one, and they had no intention of every constructing one. ID is a scam to get theological beliefs taught in public schools.

 

[Speedwell]

The idea was to find out more about the theory, then come up with a more accurate criticism. SFS is obnoxious but at least he does make some informed posts. Here's their policy:
As a matter of public policy, Discovery Institute opposes any effort to require the teaching of intelligent design by school districts or state boards of education. Attempts to mandate teaching about intelligent design only politicize the theory and will hinder fair and open discussion of the merits of the theory among scholars and within the scientific community. Furthermore, most teachers at the present time do not know enough about intelligent design to teach about it accurately and objectively.
If your only source is its critics you will continually be misinformed.

Have you got a source for that quote? Does it date from before or after the Dover trial?

 

[AV1611VET]

ID/creationism is washed up. What's do discuss?

ID ≠ Creationism

 

[VirOptimus]

ID ≠ Creationism

You are wrong. The Dover trials clearly shows that they are the same.

 

[AV1611VET]

You are wrong. The Dover trials clearly shows that they are the same.

So if I dress up as Genghis Khan, does that mean I'm Genghis Khan?

 

[Vaccine]

Behe's claims were refuted long ago. I could post a video for you again that shows that the evolution of the bacterial flagellum is well understood. The video is a simplified version of a much more length paper that I could link for you and that is based upon over 200 different peer reviewed articles, links will be in the paper, that I will not bother linking for you.

Behe's strategy was to find problems that were only recently discovered and since there was no solution for them yet he would declare that they were unsolvable. Behe forgot that problems on the cutting edge of science are solved every day.

ETA: How does the article that you linked support you in any way at all?

"How does the article that you linked support you in any way at all?"
They said based on their results the genes for the flagellum diverged to make the type III secretion system. In other words, the type III SS came from the flagellum not the other way around.
It only refutes all the youtube videos, internet blogs, and TV shows asserting the bacteria flagellur motor evolved from the type III secretion system. Leveler heads prevailed, they usually do.

 

[Loudmouth]

So if I dress up as Genghis Khan, does that mean I'm Genghis Khan?

No one is claiming that your dress makes you a creationist.

 

[Loudmouth]

"How does the article that you linked support you in any way at all?"
They said based on their results the genes for the flagellum diverged to make the type III secretion system. In other words, the type III SS came from the flagellum not the other way around.
It only refutes all the youtube videos, internet blogs, and TV shows asserting the bacteria flagellur motor evolved from the type III secretion system. Leveler heads prevailed, they usually do.

Where is the evidence that the bacterial flagellum was designed by an intelligence?

 

[AV1611VET]

No one is claiming that your dress makes you a creationist.

Well, for the record:

Creationism vs Intelligent Design

 

[Loudmouth]

Well, for the record:

Creationism vs Intelligent Design

For the record, this is the Discussion forum, not the bare link forum.

 

[VirOptimus]

So if I dress up as Genghis Khan, does that mean I'm Genghis Khan?

Random answer is random.

In other words, your answer is a non sequitur.

 

[Subduction Zone]

"How does the article that you linked support you in any way at all?"
They said based on their results the genes for the flagellum diverged to make the type III secretion system. In other words, the type III SS came from the flagellum not the other way around.
It only refutes all the youtube videos, internet blogs, and TV shows asserting the bacteria flagellur motor evolved from the type III secretion system. Leveler heads prevailed, they usually do.

No, it says that is the case for some, not all. And it refutes nothing. Your inability to understand an article does not mean that it refutes a concept.

 

[HitchSlap]

ID ≠ Creationism

Of course it is. Don't be silly.

See: "Of Pandas and People"

 

[AV1611VET]

See: "Of Pandas and People"

I thought Of Pandas and People got smoked in court?

And for the record, it's better than The Preservation of Favoured Races.

 

[HitchSlap]

I thought Of Pandas and People got smoked in court?

Right, because ID is creationism in a cheap tuxedo. Just one more link in a long chain of theist lies.

IAnd for the record, it's better than The Preservation of Favoured Races.

C'mon, asking us to believe you've read them both is preposterous.

 

[AV1611VET]

Right, because ID is creationism in a cheap tuxedo.

You didn't read that link, did you?

And for the record, I already called it a cheap imitation.

The word "cheap" is my trademark, remember?

 

[Kylie]

Discuss please.

We'll add the word "theory" to the list of things you don't understand, shall we...?

 

[TLK Valentine]

ID ≠ Creationism

Perhaps, but Creationism ---> ID

 

[AV1611VET]

Perhaps, but Creationism ---> ID

There are two ways to look at this:

1. Creationism + Science = Intelligent Design

2. Creationism - Faith = Intelligent Design

 

[TLK Valentine]

There are two ways to look at this:

1. Creationism + Science = Intelligent Design

2. Creationism - Faith = Intelligent Design

More than 2, AV.

3. Creationism + Discovery Institute + pseudoscientific buzzwords + political agenda - a shred of honesty or integrity = Intelligent Design

As usual -- no, as always -- you stopped at the simple answers.