uh... ANY evidence? I can see dark matter through a telescope.
Right back at you. I can see "God" through a telescope too!
If God is the universe then which way would I need to point my telescope to see it in action?
You might try the sun. It's CONSTANTLY in action. I recommend you study it via SDO images rather than an ordinary telescope however. You'll get better results with SDO images and there is no danger to your eyes.
Where do you get some "star matter" to play with on earth?
Pick up ANYTHING you see. It's technically "star matter" as is every element in your physical body.
Sure. You can FEEL the heat from our star on your face.
We can't observe it in a lab,
You might not be able to "build one" in a lab, but you can certainly study all it's components in a lab, including it's energy source.
we can only observe theirs effects by the photons they throw our way... oh and the gravity they generate.
Both effects can be MEASURED on Earth, not to mention the actual PLASMA particles we can pick up from space on it's way from the sun.
We see dark matter the SAME WAY. We can't physically hold it or see it, but we clearly see it's effects through a telescope.
But I can use that SAME LOGIC! You can't physically hold God/The Universe, but you can see it, you can touch parts of it, and you can PLAY with any part of God that you can physically reach.
So you are saying dark matter doesn't have a TANGIBLE effect on the galaxies it surrounds?
Nope. It's just "gap filler" because the mass estimation techniques used by the mainstream are ABSOLUTELY PITIFULLY FLAWED. You're now stuck defending a "dark matter of the gaps" argument to save your otherwise FALSIFIED theory of the universe.
I don't think we are getting anywhere with this. you are still caught up on the whole "in a lab on earth" thing.
What is your beef with God exactly?
There are plenty of things in space that we know exist even though they aren't physically here on earth... I don't see where this confusion is coming from.
How do you know God isn't "out there somewhere" too?
Put yourself in the shoes of someone a few hundred years ago. When Galileo first miscalculated the orbits of planet did they completely throw out heliocentricism? Well, the religious people tried to! Maybe your comment is more telling than you realize...
You do realize that the "mainstream" would have been promoting "epicycles" at that time and I'd be more in the role of Galileo, right? I'm suggesting to you that plasma cosmology theory, with or without pantheistic overtones, blows away current "dark sky religion" in terms of "explaining" our universe. You're the one still claiming that "epicyles' are a "better" scientific explanation than heliocentric ideas.
if by "presume" you mean "logically deducted" then, yes, I sure did.
Why doesn't that logic that work for me? If I called that missing mass "God matter" would you then believe that "God" exists too?
I see God getting weaker and weaker every time they discover something new. Eventually there ill be no room left for God. Pantheism included.
You've "presumed an outcome". That's not "weak atheism", that a KNOWLEDGE position called "strong atheism" which cannot and never would enjoy EMPIRICAL support. The mainstream only actually "understands" about 5 percent of the makeup of the universe. That leaves AT LEAST 95 percent of the universe UNEXPLAINED. I'd say that is PLENTY room enough to drive ANY metaphysical truck through, including God or God matter, or dark matter, or (insert your magic of choice here).
I'd like to see the empirical evidence backing your god-brain idea.
I can show you that the exterior alone of every sun contains more "circuits" than any human brain on the planet. Will that suffice?
Well, yeah! I heard some physicists say that that might be true! maybe dark matter isn't an actually THING, it might just be that we miscalculated the numbers. We might not have a good understanding of the mass/energy relationship yet.
Ding ding ding! Give the woman a cookie! Our technology is simply "limited' and their galaxy mass estimation techniques STINK.
But again, just because a scientific theory is wrong doesn't mean science is bad. Actually, theories MUST be proven wrong again and again for any type of progress to be made.
My point is that you personally are supporting an "exotic gap filler of the gaps" argument to prop up an otherwise FALSIFIED concept about how to measure the ordinary mass of a galaxy. Why not let that dead empirical theory die a natural empirical death already and embrace PC theory (without the pantheistic concepts if you like)?
The only thing that NEVER changes is your ancient story books... Somehow you take comfort in it's unchangeability but I see it as it's greatest weakness.
I get the impression that you're tilting at Christian windmills of your own creation. Christ is the "living word" of God IMO, not any book on Earth. I'm not even personally or emotionally attached to a "creation event' in the first place! Of the two of us, only YOU are promoting a "creation mythos" that requires "Faith in the unseen" (in the lab).
I guess we are both just speculating here. The difference I think is that I'm just assuming what is already happening -that god explanations are getting weaker and weaker.
That's simply your strong atheistic bias rearing it's ugly head. When you finally realize that you're doing exactly (just in reverse) what you accuse theists of doing (presuming an outcome without sufficient evidence) you'll eventually become a "weak atheist" IMO. From there, who knows, but you'll have to get that atheistic chip off your shoulder first.
You are assuming that we will make some grand discovery that will topple EVERYTHING KNOWN TO MAN! lol. I won't hold my breath.
You're assuming anything is actually "known to man". Man has THEORIES that may or may not be valid. Some areas of "science" have made tangible progress and produce tangible goods. Other areas of science remain in the "dark ages", including cosmology today. We don't "understand" dark stuff. It's a MYSTERY to us. There's nothing KNOWN about it. IMO you're WAY TOO GULLIBLE when it comes to any concept promoted by "science", and way too "skeptical" when it comes to any idea that involves the concept of an intelligent creator. In fact, you personally have NO IDEA how this physical universe got here, so you cannot possibly know the outcome.
