intellgence....you either have it or you don't

[Davian]

I'm not anti-science, I am against the scientists- they do not heed God.

And that's the bottom line, God created the universe, it does not exist out of it's own accord and one is a fool to think otherwise.

Do you find that only intelligent people agree with you?

Whether you like it or not, life and reason are things which cannot possibly result by default.

How did you know that?

There must be an intelligent designer and you will receive no other alternative.

There is always the alternative answer of "we don't know".

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I'm not anti-science, I am against the scientists- they do not heed God.

And that's the bottom line, God created the universe, it does not exist out of it's own accord and one is a fool to think otherwise.

Whether you like it or not, life and reason are things which cannot possibly result by default. There must be an intelligent designer and you will receive no other alternative.

People once said the same about disease. Epilepsy, for example, was thought to be caused by demonic spirits. I can imagine someone who believed that very strongly saying "Whether you like it or not, illnesses are things which cannot result from natural processes. There must be a demonic spirit, and you will receive no other alternative."

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I'm really trying to understand. So I encounter a god who says he's the one true God. We've established that. It is me he's talking to. I have an idea about what I think God is based on my belief in the Bible. This god is not like that idea at all. The Bible says God - the one true God - is love. I believe that. But in this scenario, this God that I'm speaking with is NOT like what I believe. Therefore, this God is hatred.

I use the same formula for all the attributes of God that I believe Him to possess. I believe them because I believe the Bible, and the Bible speaks of MANY attributes of God. I can't objectively SEE such attributes as love, justice, mercy, forgiveness...maybe if this God were to give Variant's kitty up there a nice warm hug, that would be a demonstration of love, but since this thing is and represents everything I dislike, it does not possess the attribute of "love", because I dislike absolute hatred. It would be more likely to kill the kitty.

Ultimately, if it turns out that the real God is a mean, unfair, vicious, contemptuous, apathetic, selfish, unkind, spiteful entity, I suppose would likely do what just about anybody would...I would descend into complete madness. The very notion that this evil god created everything including man's concept of "good" just to snatch it all away and force His people to choose between torture and torture would be the very definition of insanity. What would YOU do?

Thank-you! Finally, we've come at an answer. I've already told you what I would do, and it is much the same.

 

[single eye]

People are constantly making the same 2 mistakes over & over again, overcomplicating the simple, and oversimplifying the complicated. Neither one leads to the truth. The solution comes when we learn to ask better questions.

 

[TheImmortalJellyfish]

Thank-you! Finally, we've come at an answer. I've already told you what I would do, and it is much the same.

Yikes...well, I guess I'm glad I finally understand the premise of your question, but I don't see how it could be possible. What would "divine evil" be?

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Yikes...well, I guess I'm glad I finally understand the premise of your question, but I don't see how it could be possible. What would "divine evil" be?

...the Church Lady already gave us the answer years ago.