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Leader of the Banned said:
My problem is I snore so loud I keep myself awake so now I sleep in another room...

You could have sleep apnea, my husband has it and went to a sleep lab where it was confirmed. He now has a c-pap machine (mask w/positive air flow) that totally eliminates his snoring and finally has restful sleep....now I can sleep too!
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I've had insomnia since I was a kid. I even remember my parents getting really mad at me because they thought I was doing it to bother them. For me its not so much a problem of how much sleep I get... I just can't regulate WHEN I sleep. I can go to bed at 9pm or 12 pm, and either way, won't be able to fall asleep until about 4 or 5 am. It's come to a point where I've had to get a job that starts at 1 in the afternoon because thats the earliest I can wake up. And sleeping pills make me feel sick.. so thats a no go.
 
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Is there such a thing as self-inflicted insomnia? ;)

I usually only get a few hours of sleep a night, but only because I've so many busy hours in my day my thinking and relaxation time takes precedence over when I ought to be in dreamland. Now staying up late and awaking early seems to be a habit my subconcious is hanging on to... :sigh:

Blessings,
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i dont' know about "self inflicted insomnia" but self inflicted sleep deprivation - definately!

Now.....let me say to everyone who is posting/reading here that there are many sleep disorders that people may have that cause them to always feel tired OR to cause them to not be able to get to sleep OR cause people to only be able to sleep for a couple of hours bfore waking and feeling restless etc etc.

......and they're not called insomnia. Of course, insomnia DOES exist and can of course be a terrible thing to endure...but, often "insomnia" has something lurking behind it.

Already one person has mentioned snoring, and someone in repsponse mentioned sleep apnea, that's one - and probalby one of the most common disorders I'm talking about. Sleep apnea is when you stop breathing frequently in your sleep for a period of 10 seconds or more - most people with sleep apnea stop breathing HUNDREDS of times in their sleep - and whenyou stop breathing, your body wakes up - not fully, just enough to start you breathing again - so you're not usually aware of it (I sure wasn't). Think about it - it means waking up HUNDREDS of times during the night - no wonder it makes people feel tired when they have sleep apnea!

If you have the following symptoms - you NEED to get it checked out - left untreated sleep apnea can have very serious concequences.

daytime sleepiness
snoring (not essential, it's a misconception that all people with sleep apnea snore, I dont' snore but I still have sleep apnea)
restless sleep
frequent awakening through the night
the need for more than one trip to the bathroom through the night
waking up with headache
waking up with sore throat
waking up with dry mouth
inability to concentrate
memory problems
mood swings

I can go into more detail about any of these symptoms if people need me to.

Ok.......now , are you one of those people that has trouble sleeping and finds the bedclothes all over the room when you wake up? You may have periodic limb movement disorder, this is when your limbs move or "jump" while you sleep - it's normal for it to happen once or twice but if someone tells you you're always flopping your arms or kicking your legs in your sleep, you may have PLMD. This can be diagnosed through a sleep study and treated with medication etc.

Simliar in some ways to PLMD is Restless Leg Syndrome. If your legs feel uncontrollable when you're trying to go to sleep, if you feel creeping sensations or that you just have to MOVE your legs - you may have RLS. This disorder often has a daytime symptom (as well as tiredness from disturbed sleep) of restless legs during the day. If you're one of those people that can't stop jiggling your leg while you're sitting - you may have RLS.

Narcolepsy is when someone suffers from EXTREEM tiredness regardless of how often/long they sleep. They will often sleep many more hours than a person without narcolepsy. they also tend to fall asleep frequently in inappropriate situations - during meetings, watching tv, while driving, and some, while doing pretty much anything - even in the middle of a conversation. There are often associated symptoms, one being what's called cataplexy - when they tend to colapse (their legs buckle underneath them) particularly at times of high emotion, like when laughing, crying, getting excitetd etc. This again can be diagnosed through a more extensive sleep study and can be treated sucessfully with medication in most cases.

Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome - most people sleep around the same time of day - ie, at night, but for some their body clock is set differently. I'd almost bet one poster here has this. Typically it is something one has all their life (although it can be aquired in some night-shift workers). Typically people suffering from DSPS will be referred to as "night owls". Those of us who typically stay up very late and try to sleep in till till the afternoon. People with DSPS aren't lazy, they just run on a different body-clock-time to most people. When forced into a "normal" pattern, people with DSPS often feel very tired and unable to function properly. If left to their body's natural cycle, most DSPS suffers will acutally find that their sleep cycle is not only later (delayed) than most people's, but it acutally moves - if you have DSPS and you let your body tell you when it wants to sleep, you'll find that over the period of weeks or months, your cycle will shift, it will typically get a bit later and a bit later until you find your self almost sleeping "normal" hours - but then you start to feel rotten again and your cycle flips to the start again where you're going to bed later and later. DSPS can be effectively treated in some people by the use of Light Therapy - which his used to try and tune the body back into using the sun as a clock-trigger for when you should be sleepign and awake.

There are also parasomnias (problems that occur during REM (dream) sleep) such as sleep walking or talking, night terrors - and those who acutally act out their dreams while they're still asleep.

ALL of these sleep disorders (and these are only a few of the very many) can cause serious problems if left undiagnosed and treated. The potential to develop mental problems are highly increased, potential to put on weight is highly increased, depression, and danger of falling asleep while driving, operating machinery etc etc etc are all very real problems.


Ok...the point of all this? If you're suffering from sleep problems, don't just hope it will go away, there may well be a serious problem behind them that needs treatment. The good news is, pretty much all of it IS treatable - and if you DO see a doctor, and get a sleep study done and find out you have nothing wrong, then you've not lost anything and have some peace of mind - if you find out there IS something wrong, and you get it treated, you'll never regret getting your life back. People often dont' realise how bad things were until they get treated and get thier quality of life back again.


(Please note I am not medically trained and you need to discuss any of the above with your doctor.)
 
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Sorry to take so long to reply everyone. I guess I have no right to call myself an insomniac after reading very serious replies!

Lessien said:
Insomniacs Unite!
That's right. ;) Its a good thing to notice people sharing the same problem and others offering help.

Rosiegirl said:
Are you able to exercise at all? are you sleepy during the day? I wouldn't blow off the depression as no big deal just because you don't feel suicidal. How are you feeling socially do you spend time with friends? :pray:
To tell you the truth, before I got back to the forums and read this message, for the past week and a couple of days or so, I got back into exercising. After being absent from that beneficial habit, I've been through alot of stress with my job, school work, and social life. All that of that must of just hightened the level of depression, thus leading me not to care about anything like sleep for example.

So yes, I'm back into exercising. Sleeping has become more easier now since I feel that 'something' has been done for the day, thus I can rest feeling well about myself. I gotta say I regret being away from it. It does help to exercise. Based on my own experience it boosts up my self-esteem and gives me a sense of pride or accomplishment to be able to actually do something. Believe it or not, exercising has influenced me to take up challenges like joining a sport this season and also seeing how 'fit' I can become. Heh, Bruce Lee can also take credit for the influence in my life. :D

And about the social question, I am quite social except when it comes after school where I usually spend time for myself when I feel that theres been enough nonsense for the day. Yes, nonsense. Theres really no one worth spending quality socializing time in school, so it becomes a trifle situation I face everyday.
 
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guys, why are letting the man try and bring us down? just b/c the man says you have to go to sleep at nite doesn't mean you have to. insomniacs let's start the revolution, fight the power and stick it to the man.

fight the good fight AND stay up all nite.
 
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Strife said:
So yes, I'm back into exercising. Sleeping has become more easier now since I feel that 'something' has been done for the day, thus I can rest feeling well about myself. I gotta say I regret being away from it. It does help to exercise. Based on my own experience it boosts up my self-esteem and gives me a sense of pride or accomplishment to be able to actually do something. Believe it or not, exercising has influenced me to take up challenges like joining a sport this season and also seeing how 'fit' I can become. Heh, Bruce Lee can also take credit for the influence in my life. :D

And about the social question, I am quite social except when it comes after school where I usually spend time for myself when I feel that theres been enough nonsense for the day. Yes, nonsense. Theres really no one worth spending quality socializing time in school, so it becomes a trifle situation I face everyday.
Daniel, glad to hear you are feeling better :thumbsup: as for the social situation, I'm not sure if your in High School or College but all I can say (since I am two decades your senior), it gets much better :wave:
 
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look i suffer of insomnia too, but i found a way to tackle a bit the problem, even if only partially. First of all consdier that getting drunk doesnt help your sleep you can sleep for a long tome but you are not rested, but consider drinking one or two beers (or a glass and half of wine) 1.30 hrs before going to bed. That cant be worse that all the pills you said you are taking....but you have to be over 18 for legal reasons...Then remeber insomnia is a serious disease only whwn causes a state in which you find yourself unconfortable....but for some ppl even 4-5 hrs of sllep can be enough if they dont feel tired throughout the day, not every person need the same amount of slleeping hrs!
 
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drinking alcohol before sleep can acutally make things a whole lot worse - i wouldn't recommend it at all - you're better off trying a little light excercise a couple hours before bed

also, some helpful hints can be found here http://talhost.net/sleep/insomnia.htm - i'd recommend try all of these things BEFORE even THINKING about using alcohol
 
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I used to sleep walk when I was little, I haven't done that in several years.
In the past 6 months I've started sleep screaming (ok I've only actually woken up screaming once -I was at a camp too, so I woke every one up:blush: ) I some times wake up randomly in the night thinking there is something in my room:eek: I get these night terrors or 'parasomnias' some one said, once every 2 weeks or so. I usualy manage to get back to sleep once I realise that what ever it was in my room is gone or wasn't there in the first place :p
 
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KathiBear32 said:
I think i'm part vampire lol. At night I can't sleep, if I do its not a nice long sleep, but as soon as that sun starts to shine thru the windows, i'm out! This doesn't work with school!

Same! I duno, daylight just seems to drain me.
 
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