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Did the impurities/ill thoughts/causes that makes lucifer, saturn & other angel turn against its creator came from inside or outside. If from inside, how did it existed inside, if from outside, how did it existed outside?

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Amitabha
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What "free" will is there if it is conditioned?
What "choice" is there if it is conditioned?

If he can choose a "Bad" choice, who created the "bad" choice?

How can a choice turn into pride without necessary defillements? Something that is condemn When pride & disobedience, imperfection is only to an ignorant ego mind, who believe in a self.

Pride is due to ignorance of a self. It is empty. Just as a belief of an omnipotent creator whose main aim is glrofication & condemnation to those who did not.

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The devil, like Adam, had free will. He was not content to be the highest of God's creation (he was the anointed cherub Ezekiel speaks of), but wanted to be above God. The pride was his choice - not from outside, nor from inside.

How he got the other angels (that fell) to follow him, we are not told. Perhaps it will be revealed in eternity.
 
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I think the question is biased, and weighted; and the answer is neither.

The way it is put, it implies either that inside, God put it there (that is, Satan, for example, was created with an imperfect 'inside'), or outside, there is something apart from God that can work against Him.

Pride does not 'come from inside'; but it settles there. Neither does it invade 'from the outside'.

It is a choice, and has nothing to do with inside or outside.
 
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