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Inside 100 million police traffic stops: New evidence of racial bias
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<blockquote data-quote="SummerMadness" data-source="post: 73771674" data-attributes="member: 142216"><p>You're giving a colorblind argument supposing racism is caused by seeing skin color as opposed to racism being a system or institution defined by inequality. How is ignoring data going to eliminate that system? How is not reporting police conduct going to eliminate misconduct? If you don't record the misconduct, then it doesn't exist?</p><p></p><p>We know that racism still exists in policing, but to what extent? And how does ignoring skin color eliminate unequal treatment? Not recording the disproportionate stops of African Americans and how their behavior or culture is irrelevant to those stops is exactly why we need to record such data.</p><p></p><p>Those statistics are irrelevant. When a police officer stops a motorist, should they be looking at statistics or the conduct of the motorist? What do violent crime statistics have to do with motorist driving? What does single motherhood have to do with whether or not you should pull over a car? The study already demonstrates that crime is not the issue, hence the lower rates of contraband found in searches among black motorists. Those results mirror other studies that have found the crime in an area is not a determining factor of who is stopped, rather it is their skin color. So how does not recording such data help eliminate racism? Out of sight out of mind? Ignoring racism simply means you're ignoring the problem, and if we use the behavior of some users on the forum, they argue there is no racism because there is no data demonstrating that (I find this slightly ironic because this same crowd now trumpets increased hate crimes directed at Jewish people, while arguing we need to stop focusing on intolerance toward Muslims).</p><p></p><p>Again, the "black crime" argument is an old racist trope that is repeatedly disproven by these studies, so why continue to push this argument? Especially when someone committing a mugging has zero connection to what speed I am driving on the highway. As a person that has been pulled over multiples times within months of buying a new car, what does single motherhood have to do with me being pulled over while observing all traffic laws and driving the speed limit (in none of my traffic stops did I receive a warning or ticket)?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SummerMadness, post: 73771674, member: 142216"] You're giving a colorblind argument supposing racism is caused by seeing skin color as opposed to racism being a system or institution defined by inequality. How is ignoring data going to eliminate that system? How is not reporting police conduct going to eliminate misconduct? If you don't record the misconduct, then it doesn't exist? We know that racism still exists in policing, but to what extent? And how does ignoring skin color eliminate unequal treatment? Not recording the disproportionate stops of African Americans and how their behavior or culture is irrelevant to those stops is exactly why we need to record such data. Those statistics are irrelevant. When a police officer stops a motorist, should they be looking at statistics or the conduct of the motorist? What do violent crime statistics have to do with motorist driving? What does single motherhood have to do with whether or not you should pull over a car? The study already demonstrates that crime is not the issue, hence the lower rates of contraband found in searches among black motorists. Those results mirror other studies that have found the crime in an area is not a determining factor of who is stopped, rather it is their skin color. So how does not recording such data help eliminate racism? Out of sight out of mind? Ignoring racism simply means you're ignoring the problem, and if we use the behavior of some users on the forum, they argue there is no racism because there is no data demonstrating that (I find this slightly ironic because this same crowd now trumpets increased hate crimes directed at Jewish people, while arguing we need to stop focusing on intolerance toward Muslims). Again, the "black crime" argument is an old racist trope that is repeatedly disproven by these studies, so why continue to push this argument? Especially when someone committing a mugging has zero connection to what speed I am driving on the highway. As a person that has been pulled over multiples times within months of buying a new car, what does single motherhood have to do with me being pulled over while observing all traffic laws and driving the speed limit (in none of my traffic stops did I receive a warning or ticket)? [/QUOTE]
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