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Inside 100 million police traffic stops: New evidence of racial bias
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<blockquote data-quote="SummerMadness" data-source="post: 73770921" data-attributes="member: 142216"><p>There were slaves that informed against other slaves who were planning to rebel or escape; this fact does not mean that American slavery was not a racist institution. Just because you can find someone of the same race upholding a system that targets that group does not remove the racism of that system. What you're arguing is to ignore racism in the system by not collecting data. I don't see how you can sit there with a straight face and support something like that when racism in the United States was the rule as opposed to the exception.</p><p></p><p>There are various versions of this graphic with slightly different dates, but they all communicate the same thing, racism has a long history in the United States and a change to laws didn't eliminate that system:</p><p><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CouSQMtWAAAYxOH.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Racism in policing has long been an issue in the United States, one has no further to look than the various DOJ reports on policing in American cities across the country. I implore you to actually <strong><em>read</em></strong> through one of these reports before you argue that we shouldn't collect data. These cities did not collect data before and look at the incidents that occurred.</p><p></p><p>We also know that <a href="https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/njj/181312.pdf" target="_blank"><strong>most police officers (84%) have witnessed colleagues use excessive force on civilians, and most admit (61%) they don't report even serious criminal violations</strong></a>, how can you sit there and claim the issue is collecting the data and not the system that perpetuates racism? We also have numerous studies that speak to this issue (<a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias" target="_blank"><strong>What the Data Really Says About Police and Racial Bias</strong></a>), yet we still get the same excuses (black people are more violent, it's about level of crime, or "black culture"). This is not about culture, it's about institutional and systemic racism.</p><p></p><p>These reports and this study have more than enough information to show that more black drivers and citizens are stopped despite having committed no crime, that's one of the major findings: black motorists are targeted, yet white motorists have the higher incidents of carrying contraband. If there was no racial bias, there should be no difference between the groups. We are ill equipped to address inequality when we refuse to actually collect data on the level of inequality that still exists. What issues have you ever addressed by not first seeking to understand the scope and breadth of that issue?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SummerMadness, post: 73770921, member: 142216"] There were slaves that informed against other slaves who were planning to rebel or escape; this fact does not mean that American slavery was not a racist institution. Just because you can find someone of the same race upholding a system that targets that group does not remove the racism of that system. What you're arguing is to ignore racism in the system by not collecting data. I don't see how you can sit there with a straight face and support something like that when racism in the United States was the rule as opposed to the exception. There are various versions of this graphic with slightly different dates, but they all communicate the same thing, racism has a long history in the United States and a change to laws didn't eliminate that system: [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CouSQMtWAAAYxOH.jpg[/IMG] Racism in policing has long been an issue in the United States, one has no further to look than the various DOJ reports on policing in American cities across the country. I implore you to actually [B][I]read[/I][/B] through one of these reports before you argue that we shouldn't collect data. These cities did not collect data before and look at the incidents that occurred. We also know that [URL='https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/njj/181312.pdf'][B]most police officers (84%) have witnessed colleagues use excessive force on civilians, and most admit (61%) they don't report even serious criminal violations[/B][/URL], how can you sit there and claim the issue is collecting the data and not the system that perpetuates racism? We also have numerous studies that speak to this issue ([URL='https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/data-police-racial-bias'][B]What the Data Really Says About Police and Racial Bias[/B][/URL]), yet we still get the same excuses (black people are more violent, it's about level of crime, or "black culture"). This is not about culture, it's about institutional and systemic racism. These reports and this study have more than enough information to show that more black drivers and citizens are stopped despite having committed no crime, that's one of the major findings: black motorists are targeted, yet white motorists have the higher incidents of carrying contraband. If there was no racial bias, there should be no difference between the groups. We are ill equipped to address inequality when we refuse to actually collect data on the level of inequality that still exists. What issues have you ever addressed by not first seeking to understand the scope and breadth of that issue? [/QUOTE]
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