inherently evil?

[holyrokker]

Quite to the contrary. For we know from other Scriptures that while Jesus' death on the cross was sufficient in paying the sin debt of all humanity, not all of humanity will partake of the benefit of being spiritually regenerated. In fact, only a few will.

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So, How is it that you intepret all to mean two different things?

You can't claim that the all who die in Adam means all humanity inherits Adam's sin unless you interpret that the all who live in Christ means all humanity inherits Christ's righteousness.

Since we agree that the second half of the sentence doesn't mean all of humanity is alive in Christ, we can't interpret the first half of the sentence as meaning all are automatically dead in Adam.

 

[armothe]

Adam was made out of dust. Adam sinned. The dust was cursed to die. We are all the flesh of Adam. Hence, we die. The Hebrew word for humanity is adam. Death comes to all adam because Adam sinned. The power of Adam's transgression reigns over us in this manner. And that is all there is to it.

Then why didn't Adam and Eve phyiscally die the instant they ate of the fruit?

-A

 

[TruthMiner]

Then why didn't Adam and Eve phyiscally die the instant they ate of the fruit?

-A

Because they had eaten of the tree of life.

 

[holyrokker]

Because they had eaten of the tree of life.

Hmm... There doesn't seem to be any indication of that. In fact, God set cherubim around the tree of life to prevent them from eating of it and thereby living forever.

Genesis 3:22

And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

 

[scandinavian19]

So to those who don't believe in the nature of sin being inherited.

Q: How does a child let's say 2-3 yrs of age able to show signs of the following characteristics.......
Jealousy, Anger, Envy...are they conscious (aware) they doing something wrong?

If we examine Ephesians it shows the state of those before and then after conversion.

• You were once dead in your trespasses and sins but are alive in Christ Eph 2:1
• You were walking in darkness but now are walking in the light Eph 5:8
• You were children of disobedience but now sons of obedience. Eph 2:2
• You were children of wraith but now are sons of a greater inheritance. Eph 2:3

I believe its passed on through observation.

So was the sin of Cain through observation??

 

[holyrokker]

So to those who don't believe in the nature of sin being inherited.

Q: How does a child let's say 2-3 yrs of age able to show signs of the following characteristics.......
Jealousy, Anger, Envy...are they conscious (aware) they doing something wrong?

If we examine Ephesians it shows the state of those before and then after conversion.

• You were once dead in your trespasses and sins but are alive in Christ Eph 2:1
• You were walking in darkness but now are walking in the light Eph 5:8
• You were children of disobedience but now sons of obedience. Eph 2:2
• You were children of wraith but now are sons of a greater inheritance. Eph 2:3

So was the sin of Cain through observation??

Cain's sin was his own sin. He didn't "inherit" murder.

 

[armothe]

So to those who don't believe in the nature of sin being inherited.

Q: How does a child let's say 2-3 yrs of age able to show signs of the following characteristics.......
Jealousy, Anger, Envy...are they conscious (aware) they doing something wrong?

God created man in His own image and likeness. God's own word testifies that He has demonstrated jealousy, anger and envy throughout the bible. Hence, we were created with those same attributes - it's called human nature - and also includes love, joy, kindness, compassion and other good qualities.

I'm amazed at how you guys are quick to bring up disobedient 2yr olds for proof of an inherited sin nature, yet you conveniently neglect the times when they humbly walk up to their parents, nuzzle into them and say "I love you, Mommy/Daddy".

-A