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Johan_1988

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It is speaking specifically about the sinful nature and death that is inherited from Adam . Sin is an act or deed.
It is a transgression of the law:
1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Also if there is no law , there is no sin:
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

In the case of an infant. They do not know it since they do not know the law. How can someone be accountable for something they don't know? Because that is what you are implying here.
 
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I’m not sending anybody to hell. What you written doesn’t seem to include a lot of Scripture.

Sure I get that you're not sending anyone to hell. I included scripture here. I only boldend important parts and the rest are to provide the context. I made quite clear the conditions for salvation. I don't like long winded explanations which are based on idea's of men. Sorry to say that, but it's true. Treating Martin Luther like his teachings are infallible is the biggest mistake of the reformed church in my point of view. He only got it good enough for people to get born again.
 
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Jesus Was Dedicated Luke 2:21-40

And then he told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone, everywhere. Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned."(Mark 16:15-16)
 
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Soo...my head is still spinning!

We are actively looking into a church that will be willing to baptize, and still balancing theology with clear winners the Methodist church, Lutheran, or Episcopal (an extreme outlier is the Catholic Church but coming from a Protestant background I would have a lot to learn). We have spoken to clergy at 2 of the 3 choices, and we plan to make visits.

This has been frustrating, but good for us spiritually. We are "immature" Christian's admittedly with core theology going over our heads. We talked to a Pastor at our current independent, fundamental church, which we were going for months. We were increasingly getting frustrated, and they told us we dedicate children and you must become members. So I went online and followed line by line in their beliefs, and just do not agree with their beliefs. Especially had trouble with believing "the Bible as the Inerrant word of God", "disregarding the apostacy", "KJV only", and "Dispensationalism". We countered this by trying to attend a very contemporary Mega Church last week that believes the total opposite, and found upon our arrival our infant daughter was not allowed in the service and had to attend the nursery (no choice in the matter and their website did not say anything about kids under 8 not allowed). So we went no where last week, but it gave us time to o think, plan, and reflect.

It was over this last week that I realized maybe what we need isn't an "exciting" sermon (as tempting as that can be from an immature Christian standpoint), a friendly congregation, etc. but somewhere we can agree and grow with. I am still unsure on where we lie theologically speaking, but the Baptism of infants we agree is a deal breaker. We agree that Baptism welcomes children into the universal Church family, and is necessary.
 
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You have an issue with the Bible as the inerrant word of God?
 
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Soo...my head is still spinning!

Hi. It sounds as though you have done really good work so far, even though the journey has not wrapped up. Since your choices have narrowed, I would recommend studying those three denominations more closely now, although most people seem to think they are very similar except perhaps for their involvement in social issues and, in the case of the Methodists, the formality of the worship service.
 
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Babysit churches are nice, but what you really need is a Catholic Church. And yes, your feelings are right! Any infant not babtized is for the devil, like any computer without a firewall is for a hacker. Don't risk it. Even if you are not a Catholic, you can babtized your child as a Catholic, in any Catholic Church. As long as your child is still an infant.
 
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Baptism, biblically understood, is not a rite or ritual, a dedication or a symbol, but is a holy sacrament, so commanded by our Lord. In it all sins of the person are (permanently) forgiven, eternal life is bestowed, and faith is perpetually created through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It ranks as the greatest of the sacraments. Infants are baptized A) because baptism's efficacy has nothing to do with our intellect, but is strictly the power of God's Word to effect these promises, and B) because infants were baptized already in the Early Church as witnessed to in the New Testament.
 
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