It's more than a little ironic when Christ proclaims that we cannot enter the kingdom of heaven unless we receive it like a child, and some proclaim that children are not capable of receiving the kingdom at all.
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We are talking of infant/babies. When last you heard a baby repent or even speak?
Mat:3:15 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
No pouring. Down into the water. That is what Jesus did. Have a better example to follow?
The question is not if a person is baptized in water.
The question is has a person been born again?
Rom 10:9 tells how to be born again.
The dunken in the water is a symbol in which we are buried with Christ, when we are dunked, and raised to newness of life in Him, when we come up after being dunked.
Also relative to the discussion is that people take the verses about being 'buried' with Christ and apply a modern day view of burial. Let's do remember that Christ was not buried (submersed) under ground, which is the image people associate with dunking. He did walk out of the tomb, much like he walked out of the river. But the correlation to his burial certainly doesn't imply being 'dunked' in baptism.
Hi. My question is just a simple one but with a long backstory.. I was baptized as an infant. I've always held this baptism as a true one based on this: I believe if you are baptized and later on decide to not follow God, your baptism is no longer valid. That being said, I believe in the opposite, if you decide to come to God after being baptized, your baptism is in fact, valid. I've also thought that the babies were dedicated in the Israelites' covenant after 8 days, and entire households were baptized in the New Testament. That being said, the church I belong to now believes my baptism is not valid by noting that in the New Testament, it is 'believe, then be baptized'. This obviously disturbs me because, does my baptism count? Do I need to be re-baptized? I don't know, and I've been following God for a while now and am scared that I've been following all this time but missing a step. I've always thought my baptism was valid until my pastor said it was not. Can somebody shine some light on this?
I go to a church that doesn't have a specific denomnation but clearly leans baptist. I'm posting it here as I do think it's a theology question, although it does fall under 'Christian Advice' as well.
Good work, narnia. We need to keep that in mind whenever this topic comes up.
Down into the water does not mean 'dunked' instead of pouring. All the ancient artwork shows Christ standing in the water with John the Baptist pouring water over his head.
Read Acts Chapter 8 where Philip baptizes the eunuch and they both go 'down into the water'. If going 'down into the water' means getting 'dunked', then the person who is doing the baptizing needs to also be submersed to in order to be Scriptural.
I didn't know they had an artist on hand.Down into the water does not mean 'dunked' instead of pouring. All the ancient artwork shows Christ standing in the water with John the Baptist pouring water over his head.
Read Acts Chapter 8 where Philip baptizes the eunuch and they both go 'down into the water'. If going 'down into the water' means getting 'dunked', then the person who is doing the baptizing needs to also be submersed to in order to be Scriptural.
I didn't know they had an artist on hand.I'd say just adhere to the method your Church uses. We dunk thrice. The Roman Catholic folk pour and the Methodist sprinkle. Non can prevent the Lord from doing His work.
The ol' old ostraca my friend. They didn't picture an aquatic life, but pourings, eg, Acts 8 my friend.
....Do I need to be re-baptized? ....
One also needs to remember who those paintings of old were painted for. But I'm not concerned with differing Methods, When needed we pour as well (those confined to bed or anything that would prevent our normal practice).
" Do I need to be re-baptized?"
There is no such thing. Either you were baptized the the name of the Trinity or you were not Baptized at all.
Being an artist then is like being a Minister today, 'good money.' See, you also use affusion, at times, hence we can not only agree to disagree, but agree to agree at times. Thank you Randy, BTW I also am a 'not paid' minister, ie, although part of a 501(C)3 hence a part of the 'economics.' Just a confession of sins. Hey, now I need to send you money, just mail me your address.
I wonder what the genuine interpretation of NAME actually means at Matt.28:19, just for starters? Is it just the Triune's God's Personal Name, or more than that??? :o
Do you think it is some secret name?
Something revealed only to the elite?
The folk in the know?
Or is it just what it says in the verses?
"In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit"One name for one God in three distinct persons?
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