Independent Methodist Churches?

[cavell]

Independant Methodiost churches....Dear Lord what are you talking about?

I talk about the Church of the LIving God. We...if I may use the term...on this Wesleyan Parish, are talking about a life changing experience of meeting Jesus.

You cannot be independant from the Lord?

Wesley and his message was based upon meeting Jesus.......He is alive and in the world today 2012.

You cannot be independant of HIM....the Lord Jesus.

 

[Creech]

I don't know about others, but in my church, we are pretty conservative and against things like homosexuality, abortion, etc.

 

[GraceSeeker]

Independant Methodiost churches....Dear Lord what are you talking about?

I talk about the Church of the LIving God. We...if I may use the term...on this Wesleyan Parish, are talking about a life changing experience of meeting Jesus.

You cannot be independant from the Lord?

Wesley and his message was based upon meeting Jesus.......He is alive and in the world today 2012.

You cannot be independant of HIM....the Lord Jesus.

Cavell, I think you realize that no one is talking about being indepedent of the Lordship of Christ. The phrase is used to describe some congregations that identify with the basic theological tenants historically associated with Methodism, but who do not wish to be part of any connectional system so that they are not affiliated with the United Methodist nor the Free Methodist denominations.

You will find that there are indpendent Baptist and independent Christian congregations of many different persuasions in the USA. Just as there were once many many dissenter churches in England.

 

[cavell]

Cavell, I think you realize that no one is talking about being indepedent of the Lordship of Christ. The phrase is used to describe some congregations that identify with the basic theological tenants historically associated with Methodism, but who do not wish to be part of any connectional system so that they are not affiliated with the United Methodist nor the Free Methodist denominations.

You will find that there are indpendent Baptist and independent Christian congregations of many different persuasions in the USA. Just as there were once many many dissenter churches in England.

Cavell, I think you realize that no one is talking about being indepedent of the Lordship of Christ.

You picked me up correctly dear Pastor and Brother in Jesus. I apoligise sincerely to ther O.P and you......for my ranting on about this.

The phrase is used to describe some congregations that identify with the basic theological tenants historically associated with Methodism, but who do not wish to be part of any connectional system so that they are not affiliated with the United Methodist nor the Free Methodist denominations.

I hear that also dear Pastor..and I fully understand what you say. I thank you for your comments. Which are quite true and beyond rebuke.

This day sat.29th Sept I return home with family from a trip to 'Wembly Stadium' the national edifice for soccer....a shrine to football in England...... Built quite recently after the demolish of the old edifice in the 90s.

I met with 60,000, maybe 70,000.....I will e-mail Wembly....for entrance was by ticket only.......Therefore Numbers can be verified. Followers of Jesus. Form all churches and Christian patterns of life.

It began at 1-30 p.m. and comtinued until 6-30 p.m. All the national song writers were there to lead us Graham Kendrick.....Matt Redman..Noel Richards....etcetcetc. Talented songwriters who have blessed us in recent years in our worship to our Master/Savior JESUS.

The empahis was on unity within our ranks as those who follow Jesus.

At one point a precious brother stepped forward to pray, He wore the 'collar' the 'robe' the 'cross' around his neck and represented the British expression of religious faith....I thought.......

But this man called upon the Lord to heal our nation ........break down the Differences between us etc.

Thousands rose in response to their feet in responce to his prayer. Heal our Nation was the cry.

We came home weary.....8-15........11-30 But blessed to have met together form all walks of Christian Faith....to call upom His Name....a memorable day..

LOrd hear us as we worshipped....for our worship was prayer......

Lord hear us as we Prayed for our Prayer was worship.

You will find that there are indpendent Baptist and independent Christian congregations of many different persuasions in the USA. Just as there were once many many dissenter churches in England.[/

We that are alive today.....We Repent...We Repent...for the pride of our forefathers, for their sinful humanity...infecting the cause of the LOrd God Almighty....and our Saviour Jesus Christ


We are "One in Jesus"

But please forgive me...if I offend....My desire is only for the "Faith once delivered unto the Saints"

 

[GraceSeeker]

Sounds like a great event.

 

[actionsub]

Most of the people who think that the UMC is a "more liberal denomination" come from those denominations that I would consider not just more conservative, but down right fundamental. Taking the country as a whole, in most circles I would be considered a conservative. Yet in my neck of the woods I'm actually pretty much middle of the road among other UMC pastors.

I actually suspect there are as many or more liberals among the RCC, Anglicans, ELCA, UCC, Disciples of Christ, Presbyterians, and even American Baptist than among the UMC.

When I was music director for a Southern Baptist church, the kneejerk response to the word "liberal" was "like the United Methodists". I would say "Dude, do you KNOW any United Methodists? In these parts, they're as conservative as you are!"

They didn't believe me.

Now as for liberals, I am attending a UCC seminary. THAT'S liberal, trust me.

 

[actionsub]

I grew up Southern Baptist so my framework is based on how we the Southern Baptists are the conservative group and the American Baptists are the liberal group that left us a long time ago.

Historically, it's actually quite the opposite. The Southern Baptists split from what is now the American Baptists in 1845 over the issue of slavery, not liberal theology.

The ABC now is where the Southern Baptists were prior to a resurgence of conservatism in the late 70s. There is a liberal element indeed, but many ABC churches are quite conservative theologically. The main difference would be in the area of ordaining women.

We now return you to the original topic.