Independent Fundamental Baptist

[DiscipleOfIAm]

Can I get a definition here? I grew up in a Non-Denominational Restoration Movement church. Independent of any hierchy or higher governing body. What's the difference?

I'm looking into attending a church that is IFB and from their website I like all they have to say. I'm just wondering what to expect. I've heard of some where women can only wear dresses and one gets scorned for bringing any Bible other than the KJV. My wife comes from Assembly of God and we are looking for a church that we can raise our family in and that has a storng convicting message that we can grow spiritually in as well.

God Bless

 

[SumTinWong]

Here is one definition:
http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/rlister/bibfund/fundbapt.htm

 

[Ave Maria]

I have attended an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church in the past. The church that I went to allowed you to wear whatever you felt comfortable in (within reason of course) and they were King James Only. I don't recall if anyone was ever scorned for bringing anything other than KJV but they did seem pretty hardcore when it came to the King James Only belief. Personally, I just started attending the Southern Baptist Church I was raised in and I feel that they are great. Southern Baptists are pretty Conservative. I am sure that some even consider themselves to be Fundamentalists. I know I do.

 

[Crazy Liz]

I grew up in a Non-Denominational Restoration Movement church.

Is that Rushdoony's outfit?

I think the biggest difference you will find is that Baptists generally still believe in separation of church and state.

Also, many Baptists are not Calvinists.

 

[TwinCrier]

The main thing is they are independant of any denominal conference so rather they use the KJV, play hymns or praise songs, or have the men wear suits and women wear dresses is up to the individual congragation.
From a KJV, hymn singing, dress-wearing independant Baptist. ( I should put that in my sig)

 

[xenia]

Hi Liz,

Rushdoony was a Reconstructionist.

Restoration-type churches are those that go by the name Church of Christ.

Some Mormons also use the name "Restoration" but that's not what we're talking about here.

 

[Ave Maria]

The main thing is they are independant of any denominal conference so rather they use the KJV, play hymns or praise songs, or have the men wear suits and women wear dresses is up to the individual congragation.
From a KJV, hymn singing, dress-wearing independant Baptist. ( I should put that in my sig)

I wonder if all Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Churches are KJV Only?

 

[DiscipleOfIAm]

Is that Rushdoony's outfit?

I think the biggest difference you will find is that Baptists generally still believe in separation of church and state.

Also, many Baptists are not Calvinists.

Actually, Stone and Campbell started that one. Then broke off into Church of Christ and Discples of Christ.

 

[Matthan]

The KJV is unique in that only original documents were used. Other "translations" , even those of the KJV, often left out very important points. For instance, in the KJV, in Revelation, there is a verse that talks about being "washed in the blood of Jesus." That verse has been changed, altered, or simply omitted in other translations. And yet, there is not one single tenet of Christianity that is more fundemental, more important, then that we be washed in the blood of our Savior in order to become white as snow in the eyes of God.

Matthan <J><

 

[christianrock1]

Hey
I got a couple of questions..I grew up in a Independent,Fundamental,KJVO church..and i dont get them..
What's the point of being independent of other curches?
What's the point of being a King Jimmy only person? Even the KJV has errors in it..and according to the original preface(it's been ommited in most current KJV Bibles) its not a translation,its a revision..
And most people dont even understand it,What's the point of reading something you dont understand?

thanks,rich

 

[MbiaJc]

Can I get a definition here? I grew up in a Non-Denominational Restoration Movement church. Independent of any hierchy or higher governing body. What's the difference?

I'm looking into attending a church that is IFB and from their website I like all they have to say. I'm just wondering what to expect. I've heard of some where women can only wear dresses and one gets scorned for bringing any Bible other than the KJV. My wife comes from Assembly of God and we are looking for a church that we can raise our family in and that has a storng convicting message that we can grow spiritually in as well.

God Bless

The Independent Babtist Churches that I have attended don't believe in women waring pants and are jelous for the KJV. They are also preacher worshipers. What the preacher says is law, they don't seem to care what the Bible teaches if it condarticts the preacher. At least that was the way it was with the ones I have first hand knowledge of.

 

[Crazy Liz]

Hi Liz,

Rushdoony was a Reconstructionist.

Restoration-type churches are those that go by the name Church of Christ.

Some Mormons also use the name "Restoration" but that's not what we're talking about here.

I see. Thank you.

 

[TwinCrier]

Hey
I got a couple of questions..I grew up in a Independent,Fundamental,KJVO church..and i dont get them..
What's the point of being independent of other curches?
What's the point of being a King Jimmy only person? Even the KJV has errors in it..and according to the original preface(it's been ommited in most current KJV Bibles) its not a translation,its a revision..
And most people dont even understand it,What's the point of reading something you dont understand?

thanks,rich

The point of being independant is not paying money to some big denominational council office hundreds of miles away. The church DH grew up in closed down because they didn't have enough money and the council said once they paid their yearly dues, they would try to help them out.
We don't believe the preface in infallible, just the translated scripture. If the thees and thous give you too much trouble, just read them as 'you' Chane hath to has. It's really not difficult, but when a publishing company changes a few hundred words in order to aquire a copyright to increase their profit, well, I don't want to be support those money changers.

 

[Ave Maria]

The point of being independant is not paying money to some big denominational council office hundreds of miles away. The church DH grew up in closed down because they didn't have enough money and the council said once they paid their yearly dues, they would try to help them out.
We don't believe the preface in infallible, just the translated scripture. If the thees and thous give you too much trouble, just read them as 'you' Chane hath to has. It's really not difficult, but when a publishing company changes a few hundred words in order to aquire a copyright to increase their profit, well, I don't want to be support those money changers.

That's one thing I have always liked about independent churches. They can make their own policies and spend their money on what they feel is appropriate.

I don't attend an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist church. I attend a Southern Baptist church. Southern Baptist churches are autonomous I believe so each individual church can make the decisions they want for their church. I think that Southern Baptist churches have to meet certain guidelines to in order to be in fellowship with the Southern Baptist Convention but I am all for that. As for whether they pay dues to the Southern Baptist Convention, I don't know. Anyway, I am not certain about any of these answers so if I am wrong on any point, please correct me. Thank you.

 

[DiscipleOfIAm]

We attended the church in question on Sunday and although it was not what we were acustomed to, we liked it. Excellent preaching, a lot of Bible Study classes and groups to join, the children have a lot of classes and education, too. The praise part was just hymns that we didn't know. That is important to my wife because she was raised Assmebly of God and is used to a dynamic song service.

So, now i think we will look for a church similiar that has a better praise / song service. If we are unsuccessful, we will go back to this church. We hate church shopping, but we want to find the church God is leading us to.

God Bless

 

[NiceRice]

I'm an Independent Fundamental Baptist.

The reason we use the word "independent" is that we are not part of a denomination--like the Southern Baptists or the Baptist Union or other groups. Each church governs itself and is not in formal connection to any other church. Of course, churches can reach out to others in fellowship. Sometimes IFBs have associations that are pretty loose.

Fundamental means that the church holds to orthodox doctrine and is careful not to build alliances with churches that are not orthodox. Historically, this has developed into a movement that opposes liberalism and even soft Evangelicalism. As some have mentioned, oftentimes lists of acceptable behavior (KJV-only, dresses for women, etc.) have developed too, but these do not cover all Fundamental churches.

Baptist refers to the fact that these churches hold to the Baptist distinctives like separation of church and state, immersion of believers, etc.

NiceRice

 

[Ave Maria]

Dictionary definition of Fundamentalism:

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n.1. A usually religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism.
2. a. often Fundamentalism An organized, militant Evangelical movement originating in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th century in opposition to Protestant Liberalism and secularism, insisting on the inerrancy of Scripture.
b. Adherence to the theology of this movement.